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 Tarkus11 
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Does anyone understand the business model of FB besides selling ad space?
What will their future price be based on?

The closest I've been able to guess is that they make an attempt to monetize your privacy. At least that's the way it seems from their prior controversies...

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the stock touches its offering price and has to be supported by the greenshoe...great. Like I said SOLD!

Here is the explanation from John Murphy from ftalphaville:

Quick explainer how the greenshoe works: This price (support) stabilisation system works by the banks allotting too many shares initially to clients buying into the IPO. If they have to support the market price when trading gets underway by buying stock, the banks are essentially covering their short position. On the other hand, if the IPO goes smoothly (price is up) they exercise an option for extra stock from the issue to cover the initial over-allotment.

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Plan for Monday: Buy 10 million shares of FB @ 38.01. Sell @ 38.11.

Plan for Tuesday: Retire.

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Plan for Sunday night: Borrow 100 million dollars from @tigertrader for the margin I will need on Monday.

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Plan for Monday: Buy 10 million shares of FB @ 38.01. Sell @ 38.11.

Plan for Tuesday: Retire.

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Plan for Sunday night: Borrow 100 million dollars from @tigertrader for the margin I will need on Monday.

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Bubbles usually do not burst that fast. Maybe you can inflate it a bit first, but stay near the exit and don't get caught by the bang.

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Bubbles usually do not burst that fast. Maybe you can inflate it a bit first, but stay near the exit and don't get caught by the bang.

They were having to hold it up at 38 at the close and after hours. You think the same won't be true on Monday?

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They were having to hold it up at 38 at the close and after hours. You think the same won't be true on Monday?

Mike

They will hold it up, as long they have short positions to cover. I do not know how much is left.

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Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent - Some clever Guy.

I am 90% sure that FB will trade a lot lower than 38$ in 3-5 years.
When it is already valued at 100 Billion Dollars which is 100x the earning where
do people expect it to go? 300 Billion Dollars?

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Or: The Melt down of the *Sugar-Berg*


Some private Fanatics Begun to start a virtual game on the Internet
called FB. The goal was not to attract users but to attract –
MONEY (people Faced Booking procedures to get some stocks!)
The whole Project was pushed hard to reach Fearing Benchmarks.

Then some F***ing Banks stepped in to push this Bad
Project to make THE Going Public of the year.

The Fanatic Boys (alas community gurus) got already green Dollar-Eyes
and were thinking of their soon coming Going Private.

The Going Public took place and the F**ing Banks were setting
an initial price of 38 F**ing Bollars.

The banks were already short to gain more in the second wave …
Some Forced Betters came in late with higher bids - but were caught
on the false leg. The Greenshoe on the First Buyers-day was helping
to hold against that Fast Bashing.

The FB project was not reaching the Foreseen Blue sky - so the stock was
heading for fast Falling Bear prices…

The F*ing Banks cashed in and left the ground - the same did the
Fanatic Boys some months earlier.

The only one's that are still hoping are the Fools Bleeding on the first day -
FB buyers - holding their stock Freely Bought @ 38..

Today the price was killing the Famous Barrier of 1$.

Penny Stock FB might survive as long as the resting stock owners
are hoping for a Full Bright future which will of course never take place.
If today's price is not holding - the company stock will be Fast Buried.
R.I.P.

Internet, doom day January 6th 2014.

GFIs1


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Plan for Monday: Buy 10 million shares of FB @ 38.01. Sell @ 38.11.

Plan for Tuesday: Retire.

EDIT:

Plan for Sunday night: Borrow 100 million dollars from @tigertrader for the margin I will need on Monday.

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Ha Ha Does this mean now more futures.io (formerly BMT) then

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FB trading below IPO price premarket.

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