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Forum: Options February 8th, 2018, 08:34 PM
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Posted By kevinkdog
I am starting to realize as jackbravo stated...

I am starting to realize as jackbravo stated that we (me, shrike, Jack) are talking about a totally different concept than you, wldman and harryguy.

So let me try to understand you. Can you...
Forum: Options February 8th, 2018, 07:24 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Just to recall what I said previously... ...

Just to recall what I said previously...




The example in the post above inadvertently confirms both of my points:


The futures market is a zero (negative) sum game (the futures market...
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 03:36 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Request

If it seems like I am arguing with people who I respect, like wldman, I sincerely apologize. Arguments generally do not make for good forum reading.

I'd rather it be a discussion, so people can...
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 03:30 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
My example takes Dec 2017 contract, or any...

My example takes Dec 2017 contract, or any contract, by itself.

Rollovers would be accounted for with the individual contracts. Say you bought Dec 2016 contract, and held and rolled into March...
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 03:06 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
On any individual trade, the game is not zero...

On any individual trade, the game is not zero sum, unless both parties enter and exit at the same time on the opposite side.

But with futures, when you take the whole aggregate sum total of all...
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 02:52 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
I am always willing to learn. Please show me...

I am always willing to learn. Please show me exactly how anything I said is incorrect.
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 11:44 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
My response was not "my opinion" it is simple...

My response was not "my opinion" it is simple math, and it applies to more than just day traders. If I stated something wrong, please correct me.

Sorry I was unable to help you understand this.
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Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 11:30 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Let's use your example: wldman buys a mini...

Let's use your example:

wldman buys a mini S&P Jan 1. Group X holds the short side of that contract. S&P is at 2500.

wldman sells that long contract to Kevin on Jan 31, with S&P at 2800. ...
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 11:23 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Did I ever say your P/L was directly related to...

Did I ever say your P/L was directly related to mine? No.

What is related is the sum total of all the longs and the sum total of all the shorts.
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 10:57 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Here is a simple example: I buy a mini S&P...

Here is a simple example:

I buy a mini S&P futures contract. I hold for a month then I sell, and I make $5000.

During that time, someone held the short side of that contract. It could have...
Forum: Options February 7th, 2018, 09:58 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Thanks Dan. Just to clarify, I was referring...

Thanks Dan.

Just to clarify, I was referring to the futures market when I used the term "zero sum" because in total, the amount won is equal to the amount lost. In stocks, that is not true,...
Forum: Options February 6th, 2018, 11:12 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
The intention of saying it is that not everyone...

The intention of saying it is that not everyone can win. That means there is a competition between participants, for a limited number of dollars.

You can frame it as a competition with yourself,...
Forum: Options February 6th, 2018, 07:49 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
If you are serious, and you really think you...

If you are serious, and you really think you aren't trying to outsmart others and win at this, I honestly don't know what to say, other than to wish you good luck.
Forum: Options February 6th, 2018, 06:30 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts!

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts!
Forum: Options February 6th, 2018, 06:13 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
So are you saying when you trade you are not...

So are you saying when you trade you are not trying to outsmart others and win?
Forum: Options February 3rd, 2018, 12:26 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
This is dangerous thinking. Trading is a...

This is dangerous thinking.

Trading is a (less than) zero sum game, so every dollar you make is coming out of someone else's pocket.

Everyone who trades is competing against each other, you...
Forum: Options July 21st, 2017, 08:32 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
I think the point here was not the professionals...

I think the point here was not the professionals are on the other side of any particular trade, but that the professionals are out there, and their job is to make lots of money. They don't care...
Forum: Options June 29th, 2017, 12:05 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Just curious - how many people do you know making...

Just curious - how many people do you know making a good living from trading options, and/or making a good six figure income from options trading? Then, what about the flip side - how many do you...
Forum: Options June 29th, 2017, 10:50 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
Sound and excellent advice. I think people...

Sound and excellent advice.

I think people think it is easy because the barriers to entry are so low (if you have a pulse, you can open a trading account).

All the StockTwits and Twitter...
Forum: Options June 29th, 2017, 09:16 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 22,360
Posted By kevinkdog
It is probably less than you think, with a whole...

It is probably less than you think, with a whole lot more risk than you think. Options (and any trading really) is very hard.
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