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Forum: Traders Hideout December 4th, 2013, 02:07 PM
Replies: 96
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Posted By Outlier
It is physically impossible even when going...

It is physically impossible even when going straight through the ground. The excuse you made was not adjusting for geodesics, which again was wrong.

A chord to arc length ratio of 1.6 to 2.1...
Forum: Traders Hideout December 4th, 2013, 01:39 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
You can edit and delete own posts within 24...

You can edit and delete own posts within 24 hours, which you did repeatedly. The post in question was edited multiple times, including before you "even left the content untouched".



Let me help...
Forum: Traders Hideout December 3rd, 2013, 12:15 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
I made no such generalization but was talking...

I made no such generalization but was talking about a specific example of queue-jumping.

I actually differentiate between trading activities and believe that some have social value, like true risk...
Forum: Traders Hideout December 2nd, 2013, 11:56 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
It was the long term trader who first placed his...

It was the long term trader who first placed his order at 20.02 and actually improved the best bid. He didn't place a bid at 20.01, it was slid back there by the exchange and later rebooked to its...
Forum: Traders Hideout December 2nd, 2013, 07:01 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
I am aware but the price of both orders was 20.02...

I am aware but the price of both orders was 20.02 after rebooking.
Forum: Traders Hideout December 2nd, 2013, 06:36 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
That was before the market unlocked and orders...

That was before the market unlocked and orders were rebooked to 20.02. HFT unfairly gained time-priority over the long term trader who did submit his order for 20.02 before.

Do you know if the...
Forum: Traders Hideout December 2nd, 2013, 05:00 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
In the example in the video presentation from...

In the example in the video presentation from 33:30 to 37:45, the long term trader was first to submit a buy order for 20.02, got partially filled and slid back with the remainder to 20.01. HFT...
Forum: Traders Hideout November 24th, 2013, 05:17 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
Regardless of how large a move the long term...

Regardless of how large a move the long term trader is looking for, he still has to enter and exit the trade. That's where he gets his frictional costs increased through unethical means in the...
Forum: Traders Hideout November 24th, 2013, 03:15 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
A more technical presentation by Bodek (posted in...

A more technical presentation by Bodek (posted in another thread before, now below) makes it clear how wrong that statement is. A detailed example of how a long term trader gets fleeced by HFT is...
Forum: Traders Hideout November 16th, 2013, 09:09 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
You too have a great weekend and as promised,...

You too have a great weekend and as promised, here's what I did for a check.

I bent a piece of paper that I marked before. I wanted to see how curved it had to be for a chord to arc length ratio...
Forum: Traders Hideout November 16th, 2013, 04:23 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
I actually was just about to post my response,...

I actually was just about to post my response, enjoy! (More later.)



What we can say for sure is Peterffy has been a considerably successful trader long before starting IB.

So how do you...
Forum: Traders Hideout November 16th, 2013, 01:17 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
Because it would be faster than light. How does...

Because it would be faster than light. How does not adjusting for geodesics let you arrive at 1.6 milliseconds? That's implausible from the checks I did.

Your other numbers are in agreement with...
Forum: Traders Hideout November 15th, 2013, 05:53 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 45,225
Posted By Outlier
I know of two strong indications that this is...

I know of two strong indications that this is incorrect and Peterffy's success didn't depend on special agreements with Interactive Brokers.

1. In 1977, Thomas Peterffy bought a seat on the...
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