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AMP, CQG, and NT7

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Do you use the default symbols in ninja to setup those index data such as ad line, tick , trin, tickq...
Or do you have to setup it up manually like kinetick and iq feed?

Is there a website with documentation?

When you set up the CQG feed there is the check box to include indexes. Once the feed is all set up they should appear just like any symbol in the instrument manager. They did for me.

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I switch to CQG as well and tried to get ticks but it would not load. Does it need to be live or will it back fill?

David

its real time only, however its available after hour if you save it

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When you set up the CQG feed there is the check box to include indexes. Once the feed is all set up they should appear just like any symbol in the instrument manager. They did for me.

D

In addition...

- Index data I believe is only available on a live account (not demo account)
- Historical index data is expected to be available next week sometime

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Do you use the default symbols in ninja to setup those index data such as ad line, tick , trin, tickq...
Or do you have to setup it up manually like kinetick and iq feed?

Is there a website with documentation?

list of available symbols here
CQG Trader

you add them one by one just like you add ES, CL etc...

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When you set up the CQG feed there is the check box to include indexes. Once the feed is all set up they should appear just like any symbol in the instrument manager. They did for me.

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didnt show up for me I had to add them one by one i didn't add TRIN so no TRIN on my instrument panel.

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Are we connected to CQG historical data already ? or something else ?

Let me explain, I'm used to download data from Ninja servers using the historical data option only available to the multi-broker licence (which is not available to single broker licence)
After analysing my internet traffic it is known that the Ninja servers data comes from www.7ticks.com

After collecting so-called "CQG" data, I retrieve the exact same data errors than on the Ninja servers/7ticks source.

For example of these errors, you can check those symbols all from Eurex exchange : FDAX, FESX, FGBL, FGBM, FGBS
On daily charts during march of 2010 they all have 4 days with Open and Low values of 0 ! (which I had to manually correct)


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Are the data sources really different ? It would be really bad luck to get same data errors on both...

It seems a bit awkward to me than CQG, with its worldwide reputation, would let such gross data errors for everyone to see.

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I compared the data from CQG using ninja to DTN, and they did not match perfectly, yet it was very close. It was a live account. The differences where not huge, but DTN reported more tick data than CQG.

Ill compare again on monday for you guys. I realised that on one computer I had the newer version of ninja, and the other i didn't. That could be a possible reason. Regardless, the differences were negligible to me, so i think its sufficient. As long as "it works", i might switch. This is a new connection and API, so i think its safer to wait for others to be beta testers on this.


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Ray, i want to just tell you that im glad you guys addressed the issue i was having. I talk to Brett personally, and we are working together to fix it. We normally had a difference of opinion, specially when it came to customer service, but i just want to say that you guys really came through this time and i wanted to make that public here on this forum.

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I compared the data from CQG using ninja to DTN, and they did not match perfectly, yet it was very close. It was a live account. The differences where not huge, but DTN reported more tick data than CQG.

Ill compare again on monday for you guys. I realised that on one computer I had the newer version of ninja, and the other i didn't. That could be a possible reason. Regardless, the differences were negligible to me, so i think its sufficient. As long as "it works", i might switch. This is a new connection and API, so i think its safer to wait for others to be beta testers on this.

Son... you don't want to be a pioneer... you know what a pioneer is right... he's the guy that ends up in a ditch with arrows in his back... from the always quotable TMFT

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I second TMFT, I don't exactly understand the signficance of all this.

What I get so far: we're getting order routing with backfill from NinjaTrader servers on CQG real time data. What we're not getting is the full consolidated CQG data feed which is so highly regarded by professionals.

Also, given CQG's connectivity throughout the world, is this going to open the door to trading more markets, such as the "hard to reach" Kospi 200 futures or the Hang Seng Futures? Is AMP going to offer that, or just the same old markets offered by other order routing solutions?

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