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@Ray to clarify:

With an account with AMP we get realtime data from CQG but no historical data from them ?
The historical data are the recorded ZenFire data fom your servers, right ?

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@Ray to clarify:

With an account with AMP we get realtime data from CQG but no historical data from them ?
The historical data are the recorded ZenFire data fom your servers, right ?

rgds

That is incorrect.

Real time data comes from CQG
Historical data comes from NinjaTrader servers colocated CQG Chicago data center recorded from CQG real time data.

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Thanks, Ray.

Now the things are clearer. I just coudn't believe that a firm like CQG gives their historical market data, which are the industry's most accurate, away for free. No, they don't be stupid enough and of course they don't do it.

So in the end the recorded CQG realtime data will have the same errors like the recorded ZenFire data like
incorrect timestamps, data gaps etc...

I think AMP should stop advertising with sentences like this at their website:

"Decades of the industry's most accurate historical data are available for traders to use."
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I believe you have it backward Warren. Your live data can have inconsistencies but the recorded data is actually more accurate.

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Hi eDanny,

why should the recorded data be more accurate than the historical data from a "real" data feed like ESig or DTN ?

You only get correct charts when your ticks have the correct timestamps. This is (mostly) not given with those recorded data.

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If memory serves, the in-depth comparison of data feeds here showed that lately eSignal data is, how do you say, not great.

https://futures.io/elite-circle/3873-analysis-comparison-different-data-feeds-platforms-bid-ask-studies-20.html#post69215

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I was comparing to Zenfire like you did. You will get inconsistencies in data received by your platform in real time due to your internet connection, etc. The ticks may even be out of order at times. The recorded data does not normally have these problems. That is why if you reload historical data your indicators may change their plots because you are backfilling with accurate data. There seems to be no way around it unfortunately.

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Actually, static is NOT an option. I verified it with AMP, and they said it doesn't matter if you paid for it or not, you do NOT get the static DOM. Please recheck before your post.

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Mike,

only when FulcrumTrader things to know how Esignals server structure works, I wouldn't go this far to say that Esig is a bad datafeed. I have compared the time&sales and endless tick charts of ESig and DTN and there is absolute no difference. When you use MarketDelta with ESig and with DTN you will also see no difference. Please stop talking that DTN is the only good datafeed. This is not true.

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Actually, static is NOT an option. I verified it with AMP, and they said it doesn't matter if you paid for it or not, you do NOT get the static DOM. Please recheck before your post.

The policy I have with AMP is that the static SuperDOM is available upon request by the customer through the broker. I just confirmed with AMP that this is the case however, they are not ready to offer it yet and told me to post that you should check back with your broker in the near future.

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