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Ninja Trader / Zenfire / Mirus Display Update Interval 0.1

In NT 6.5 you could set display update interval to 0 ms - result was you could sometimes get a feeling to be realtime in the market.

I dont know really why, in NT 7.0 this interval is set 0,1 ms - no big delay but enough NOT longer to see when prices were knocking again and again a resistance or bottom.
Is there any chance or trick - e.g. by coding - to "patch" this interval to 0 ms again in NT 7, too.
Im aware that this produces CPU usage but I think this further problem could be solved by using less indicators or higher class machine.
Im just testing a simple setup e.g. if one of two correlating underlyings is just falling much deeper than the other to buy the quicker (much deeper moved) when I see the pullback is beginning. That would be much easier with multiple chart with NT 7 but without latency (update interval 0.0) too.

If there are other Data Feeds / Trading package competing against Ninja which allow displaying the feed in real time I would appreciate any tip, too.

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In NT 6.5 you could set display update interval to 0 ms - result was you could sometimes get a feeling to be realtime in the market.

I dont know really why, in NT 7.0 this interval is set 0,1 ms - no big delay but enough NOT longer to see when prices were knocking again and again a resistance or bottom.
Is there any chance or trick - e.g. by coding - to "patch" this interval to 0 ms again in NT 7, too.
Im aware that this produces CPU usage but I think this further problem could be solved by using less indicators or higher class machine.
Im just testing a simple setup e.g. if one of two correlating underlyings is just falling much deeper than the other to buy the quicker (much deeper moved) when I see the pullback is beginning. That would be much easier with multiple chart with NT 7 but without latency (update interval 0.0) too.

If there are other Data Feeds / Trading package competing against Ninja which allow displaying the feed in real time I would appreciate any tip, too.

Look under Properties (main chart, right click - about 1/2 way down the list of items with settings that can be changed). Hope this helps.

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Look under Properties (main chart, right click - about 1/2 way down the list of items with settings that can be changed). Hope this helps.

Thank you for your description where update interval can be geared, exactly that menu I described in previous post.

Please test yourself, scale ist unfortunately limited and ends at 0,1s; 0,0s is not longer possible (as it is in NT 6.5).
How to tune it again to 0,0s ????!!!!!

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Thank you for your description where update interval can be geared, exactly that menu I described in previous post.

Please test yourself, scale ist unfortunately limited and ends at 0,1s; 0,0s is not longer possible (as it is in NT 6.5).
How to tune it again to 0,0s ????!!!!!

My apology. You are correct. I noticed mine is set to 0.5
I tried changing it to 0.0 and got this message.
I set it back to 0.5 as it was before.

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The trick is to force NT to replot when you get a tick. This is a dangerous item if you don't know what you are doing, as you could start using way more CPU to do this. This trick only needs to be in ONE indcator. At the end of the OnBarUpdate() method, add the following:

 
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if (ChartControl != null)
    if (ChartControl.ChartPanel != null)
        ChartControl.ChartPanel.Invalidate();
This code will force the chart to refresh on each tick, so user beware. Your initial comment, that CPU will be fine if you manage the number of charts/indicators is spot on. To be sure you only do this in one indicator, you could have an indicator, that just refreshes the screen, but I have not tried that.

Note: This will do nothing for the DOM update interval.

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Very interesting question, did you asked ninjatrader (support forum?)

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Well documented in forums. This is one of the performance improvements in NT7. Of course the improvement comes from restricting updates, not actually doing anything better. That said, I think it was the right choice for NT, as many people don't understand the implications and get themselves in trouble with too many charts/indicators. The only issue is they do not provide a way for those that do know what they are doing to change it to a lower value.

They have the same feature/issue with the DOM and Time & Sales.

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I would like to know if multicharts is doing this ?

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The trick is to force NT to replot when you get a tick. This is a dangerous item if you don't know what you are doing, as you could start using way more CPU to do this. This trick only needs to be in ONE indcator. At the end of the OnBarUpdate() method, add the following:

 
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if (ChartControl != null)
    if (ChartControl.ChartPanel != null)
        ChartControl.ChartPanel.Invalidate();
This code will force the chart to refresh on each tick, so user beware. Your initial comment, that CPU will be fine if you manage the number of charts/indicators is spot on. To be sure you only do this in one indicator, you could have an indicator, that just refreshes the screen, but I have not tried that.

Note: This will do nothing for the DOM update interval.

Hi Aslan,

Being a volume nut, I have looked for a way to force updates with changes in volume.

Will this patch work in the OnMarketData section as well??

Thanks,

RJay

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