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Experience with Velocity Futures?

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Be aware that one of my customers showed me, side by side, where T&S data from Zen-Fire and TT were sometimes polar opposites. Meaning a block order on the ask side on one would show as a bid order on the other, and not just one time either. Beware.

Dan

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Danny,

So what do you mean? That this all thing is a big fraud?! Who's lying? I thought these things happened only in Forex!

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Get rid of your past and let the future unfold from the now.
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I've had my NT connected to my TT, but not the live version, the simulator version. No difference here, only different servers. Sim was also live.

What can I tell you about this?

Well, I had CL up in order to compare the two. The two meaning XTrader live version vs NT+TT (sim). Remember sim is live!

What happened?

When CL was trading light, meaning during the European morning session, the both worked identical. No lag, no freezing, just fine and stable.

When the US markets opened and CL started to trade heavy, especially during news periods.
The NT doom with sim feed, could never keep up with the Xtrader live version. It normally, kind of got overheated, and it started to lag with ticks. It had a lag of 1 second up to 3-4.

This was very annoying, so I decided to try out the Zen-Fire demo (also live feed, for a limited amount of time).

NT could see the light again! Now it worked, and Ninja+Zen-Fire could keep up with XTrader live version. No more freezing and lag.

My conclusion!
But remeber this is just my observation, and it's subjective. In case we get more people to follow, then it means that NT works best with Zen-Fire. So in case you want to use Ninja then it's better with Zen-Fire. If you want to go for XTrader, then use it as an independent front end, and look for a charting aplication outside. Of course you can still use NT but you'd need to get feed that's compatible.

One more thing to be said about the Xtrader. You can only be connected to one exchange at a time.

That's kind of it. I hope I've added to the equation!

This is cos NT connects to Zen_Fire thru API and for connects to TT it uses FIX protocol that is not the most efficent protocol.
Xtrader is direct connected to the exchange and may is the best choise for speed and reliability.

Luke.

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Broker/Data: Mirus/Zen, Velocity
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Hopefully the Kinetick data feed goes live soon. I was thinking of using that with Velocity to avoid having to use the TT feed.

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Be aware that one of my customers showed me, side by side, where T&S data from Zen-Fire and TT were sometimes polar opposites. Meaning a block order on the ask side on one would show as a bid order on the other, and not just one time either. Beware.

Dan

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Danny,

So what do you mean? That this all thing is a big fraud?! Who's lying? I thought these things happened only in Forex!

No fraud, only defference from feeds and how platforms handle bid and ask data.

Luke.

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Hopefully the Kinetick data feed goes live soon. I was thinking of using that with Velocity to avoid having to use the TT feed.

BTW u have to trade always with TT.

Luke.

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Luke.
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Luke,

Thanks for adding. But please make me understand this correctly. I lack knowledge about how the API and FIX protocol works. So please, in your opinion, which one is the Best XTrader or Zen-Fire?

Thank you in advance!




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This is cos NT connects to Zen_Fire thru API and for connects to TT it uses FIX protocol that is not the most efficent protocol.
Xtrader is direct connected to the exchange and may is the best choise for speed and reliability.

Luke.


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Get rid of your past and let the future unfold from the now.
Past performance is not indicative of future results.
/George
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Are you dissatisfied with Mirus Gary?

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what data feed velocity is using and is it better than zen fire or IB?

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what data feed velocity is using and is it better than zen fire or IB?

Velocity uses TT (TradingTechnologies) and their FIX Adapter, Financial Information eXchange protocol.

Anything is better than InteractiveBrokers!

See this other thread for a comparison of all the top data feeds:

https://futures.io/elite-circle/3873-analysis-comparison-different-data-feeds-platforms-bid-ask-studies.html

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