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Hello, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with tradestation brokerage. I've heard alot of horror stories. But I'm still really interested. Any feed back would be greatly appreciated

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been a tradetsation user for many years. each to his own. I also use Ninja for Order flow

we have @mattz on forums if you want to understand more on Tradestation.

Various users use different platforms. You should probably explore on your own and make the decision by yourself
Tradestation may have horror stories...but it would also have its good parts. Hence its important to make a conscious decision per ones experiences

cheers and best

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been a tradetsation user for many years. each to his own. I also use Ninja for Order flow

we have @mattz on forums if you want to understand more on Tradestation.

Various users use different platforms. You should probably explore on your own and make the decision by yourself
Tradestation may have horror stories...but it would also have its good parts. Hence its important to make a conscious decision per ones experiences

cheers and best

@paps, I appreciate the mention! Happy and Healthy 2017 to you!

I agree with your sentiment about trading platforms, and I am not sure how to respond to someone who says "I've heard alot of horror stories" (?).

If someone has a specific question about services, execution, a technical issue I would be more than happy to address it. We have been jubilant with the service that TradeStation has given us and our customers. I have a rep inside TS that helps me expedite things and helps me set up customers. They are a good company, and we are happy to carry them as an FCM.

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I like tradestation a lot as an overall package. You don't have to worry about matching up a data provider with a charts package and brokerage. It's all wrapped into one. They have server-side managed OCO. You can also trade futures, stocks, options all from the same platform. I left them though, because they don't provide day trading margins for overnight trades, which is limiting for small accounts.

Focused goals:
actions in the market are pre-considered
trades only occur when the market has conformed to expectations
donít rigidly stick to initial expectations against all evidence to the contrary
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thnx guys...maybe some of the stuff responded above helps the original poster. It maybe a tough choice for someone.

Will also pitch in what i really love about the platform

I use Ninja as some of the tools I use developed by myself/vendors need it for Order Flow & Tape. I love Ninja dont get me wrong as I can see Tape for a instrument very clearly. But I equally or more love Tradestation where I have Full market view using my customized Radarscreens or Customized Tape.

However i use some indicators which cannot really be found elsewhere that I use on Tradestation and will always have me hooked onto the platform ...some of them being the Heartbeat "aka Liquidity" of the market. I can look at Liquidity thru all instruments (Stocks, Futures, Forex) at any given time. Also I use some special software which show me Spikes in the Market which was developed when no other retail platform did Sub-second development. I also have various programs which are used to either read RTH or EOD Prints from Top Instruments & Bear Funds which are automatically transferred to my HDD via developed programs. These are some of the reasons for which I will will never be able to leave Tradestation. Yes it may have some flaws....but the developers of Tradestation have also put some very serious development time into it.

And lastly.... even some of the few free programs by Tradestation Labs cannot be compared as in I have not seen them being offered elsewhere. One can get very relevant information such as Pre-Market analysis...RTH analysis & much more info on crashes etc can be gleaned if one knows what is it being looked at. Ofcourse one needs to develop this on their own or tweak the free programs. This is free if you know how to work it. The amount of vastness and development of the platform can only be appreciated by some and by folks who may need it... just one such example is the following list which is readily available on various charts/radarscreens etc https://tradestation.tradingappstore.com/products/MarketBreadthScore/document/TradeStation_Calculated_Indices.pdf

Likewise Ninja also has its strengths...one can code extreme specialized cases of VPIN using Ninja (Volume Synchronized Probability of Informed Trades). Hence mentioned each user to his own.

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.... I left them though, because they don't provide day trading margins for overnight trades, which is limiting for small accounts.

Carrying overnight positions margins are determined by the exchange. You will have the same issue with every FCM.

Maybe you meant that don't apply day trading margins when the next session Globex session starts at 6 PM EST 5 PM CST (?)

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PM with any questions about optimusfutures (800) 771-6748 (561) 367 8686. THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF LOSS IN FUTURES TRADING.

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Carrying overnight positions margins are determined by the exchange. You will have the same issue with every FCM.

Maybe you meant that don't apply day trading margins when the next session Globex session starts at 6 PM EST 5 PM CST (?)

Thanks,
Matt Z
Optimus Futures

There is a substantial risk of loss in futures trading. Past performance is not indicative of future results.

Yea, that's what I meant, they do not offer day trading margins for the entire globex session....which other brokerages offer

Focused goals:
actions in the market are pre-considered
trades only occur when the market has conformed to expectations
donít rigidly stick to initial expectations against all evidence to the contrary

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As a clearing broker I have no issues with Tradestation, but will point out that they charge an additional fee (yes fee not margin) for positions held overnight.

As an executing platform (9.5), the fact that you can not enter a spread order to roll positions, is in this modern day and age, medieval! And since I'm complaining about lack of instruments, access to the Trade At Settlement would also be nice.

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