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Backtest with a broker and real with another

Hi all,

see contraindications in backtestare with data feed tradestation and go live with the data and execution of interactive brokers with Multicharts platform?

thanks,
tradingest

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Hi all,

see contraindications in backtestare with data feed tradestation and go live with the data and execution of interactive brokers with Multicharts platform?

thanks,
tradingest

Could you try and be more specific?
What "contradictions" do you see in TradeStation?
We carry TradeStation and MC, so I am trying to help.

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Could you try and be more specific?
What "contradictions" do you see in TradeStation?
We carry TradeStation and MC, so I am trying to help.

Matt Z
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Currently I back tested with data TS and I would like to trade real money with Interactive Brokers with the strategy built on TS data feed. I want to know if this practice is dangerous.
We know that the IB data flow is not precise

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Currently I back tested with data TS and I would like to trade real money with Interactive Brokers with the strategy built on TS data feed. I want to know if this practice is dangerous.
We know that the IB data flow is not precise

thanks in advance,
tradingest

I can write a very long post about execution data versus back tested data, but just to stay brief and practical:
1) Either you use Ts for execution.
2) Use MC with Rithmic and port over your easy language code and strategy if you have one.

Bottom line, stay on one machine for execution and testing. Many love complications and impress themselves with multiple solutions, I love simplicity.

Let me know if you have any other question.

Matt Z
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I can write a very long post about execution data versus back tested data, but just to stay brief and practical:
1) Either you use Ts for execution.
2) Use MC with Rithmic and port over your easy language code and strategy if you have one.

So, I can use MC with rithmic it's a great solution for you?
I received data feeds and trade with rithmic? For you is best? Why?
This solution is better vs Tradestation?

Other great solutions?

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So, I can use MC with rithmic it's a great solution for you?
I received data feeds and trade with rithmic? For you is best? Why?
This solution is better vs Tradestation?

Other great solutions?

I am just giving you alternatives. If you are not going to utilize TS, I would use Rithmic+MC becuause of the latency(speed of execution) and the stability of MC. I offer both TS and MC to customers, so I am totally objective.


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I am just giving you alternatives. If you are not going to utilize TS, I would use Rithmic+MC becuause of the latency(speed of execution) and the stability of MC. I offer both TS and MC to customers, so I am totally objective.


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you speak Italian?

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you speak Italian?

Sadly not fluent. seems like your English is just fine.
You can PM me and I will give you my email, then I can ask an associate to take a look.

Matt Z
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tradingest,

the question probably comes down to:

Did you test in Multicharts using Tradestation data or did you test in Tradestation?

The next question would be what you tested exactly futures, stocks or Forex, as with the latter you might want to stick to the broker that you used the data for testing for, too.

You can use Multicharts symbol mapping and use TS data for charting and trade via one of the execution methods Optimus provides, via IB or any other supported broker. Provided that you properly configured the symbol mapping and are not trying to trade different symbols or instruments (i.e. chart a stock and try to trade a future as MC symbol mapping might not work with such a configuration).

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