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HSI / Hong Kong Futures Exchange Tick Data Providers

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Eric Yong
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Hi Eric,

Thanks for your reply.

I would need the real time tick data i.e. like a continuum / CQG feed. So what you are saying is I could go to Phillips Futures or any other Hong Kong broker which offers it, open an account, get a CQG / Continuum feed (I actually dont know the difference between the two if you do?) and then hook it into NT as my front end rather than the platforms they offer? Why I ask this is I actually spoke to Phillips and they said they dont offer NT which might be technically correct but I still might be able to plug the CQG feed in?

What I am a bit unclear on is the CQG / Continuum thing with NT. My understanding (which I am may be completely wrong) was that new NT licences (from around mid Jan 2015) blocks other CQG/Continuum feeds which are not complimentary to their brokerage firm. Or does it simply block their brokerage capability and allows the data? If it is the latter that is fine as I have an account with IB and their commissions are by far the cheapest although I don't know what their execution is like yet.

Thanks.

Hi..
Phillip Futures Announces NinjaTrader Offering Through Continuum
TT, CQG, CTS, PATS, Ninjatrader | Phillip Capital

The CQG/Continuum option is only available if your NT MultiBroker LIcence was bought prior to July 2014 and that you will an existing customer with the supporting broker offering that option prior to Jan 2015. The connectivity access for both order routing and market data is controlled by Ninjatrader licence servers. Otherwise you are out of luck on this connect option.

Cheers...eric
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Thanks for the explanation Eric. As I suspected which is a real shame.

I see no reason for NT to restrict a market that they dont offer brokerage services in (IB can do it with NT but their snapshot data is obviously no good). It pushes people to other platforms and brokers. Unless they are planning to come to Asia Pacific region sometime soon we are pretty much left with Esignal data if you want to use NT. Makes me appreciate what I have had for so long with Eurex. Plenty of options and flexibility...

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Eric Yong
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Futures Experience: Intermediate
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Thanks for the explanation Eric. As I suspected which is a real shame.

I see no reason for NT to restrict a market that they dont offer brokerage services in (IB can do it with NT but their snapshot data is obviously no good). It pushes people to other platforms and brokers. Unless they are planning to come to Asia Pacific region sometime soon we are pretty much left with Esignal data if you want to use NT. Makes me appreciate what I have had for so long with Eurex. Plenty of options and flexibility...

Ninjatrader Brokerage cleared through Phillips also....I suspect they would come to the AP region through Philips in time to come...Futures & Forex Trading Accounts | NinjaTrader

It is a game of throne..so in the meantime, mere mortals suffer

https://futures.io/brokers-data-feeds/35102-amp-futures-no-longer-supporting-ninjatrader-3.html

Cheers...eric
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Indeed.

Well I have stumped up and subscribed to Esignal HKEX. I pay $4 for the exchange data and $171 for the trading program which I will never use! Awesome.

That said the data from this mornings session was good for HSI. Works well with NT and the integration was pretty straight forward.

But please NT Brokerage come to AP region :-) Your friends at CQG are everywhere through here so you can use their trade route and data (maybe;-)

Or maybe even IQFeed. Anyone is welcome here!

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They offer ALL MARKETS - from Brazil to full Asian exchanges ...Probably with Newedge (now Societe G) I guess so they could have big requirements.I cant say anything more - I dont know about reliability or anything exept that they are very cheap - on some markets (KRX) cheaper then IB.You need to check it out

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Thanks Tommip. I will certainly check them out.

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I've got continuous HKFE contracts from NT's servers!

I have continuous historical data for the HKFE from NT...When did this happen? I found out totally by mistake....waiting to see if i have live quotes as well...


Last edited by xiaosi; May 30th, 2016 at 10:36 PM.
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According to NT's support, they do have continuous contracts for the HKFE products (at least for the HHI and HSI) now.

This makes back testing ideas/statistics etc., and long term composites very doable now...

It seems Philllip Futures are supporting the contracts through NT as well for some grandfathered dual brokerage holders, but they don't have servers in Sydney, according to their sales rep...Think i'll have to stick with IB for now.

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Yes the free CQG data for NT has the historical data but not real time. Same for a bunch of other contracts including FTSE. I think they block CQG from giving the real time data for markets they don't offer brokerage services to as CQG have most markets covered data and trade route wise.

Hopefully one day NT will offer more in Asia Pacific region which are great markets for all. I cut my teeth on Euro markets because they opened after my day job, and now I am trading mostly full time I have moved to Asian markets so I can work during normal hours. Same could be said for people in the US. Asian markets open after most people get back from work so great for people transitioning from a day job to trading or even giving it a crack. HSI is an even bigger no brainier for US people as the Hong Kong dollar is pegged to the US dollar so minimal currency risk.

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I have continuous historical data for the HKFE from NT...When did this happen? I found out totally by mistake....waiting to see if i have live quotes as well...

Is it historical TICK data?

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