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Kinetick - A new Market Data Feed Service for NinjaTrader

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We have no plans to discontinue providing technology to collect and manage historical data for Zen-Fire users.

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On the paper, this looks very nice, let's see how it goes in real life.
I hope we'll have some beta-testers here in futures.io (formerly BMT), to give us unfiltered thoughts

On release of next beta, any existing DTN/IQFeed user can create a Kinetick connection and plug in their DTN/IQFeed login credentials to test out this new feed. This access is temporary and will be removed once in production. In addition, there is a pre-configured EOD conection that is always there and free for historical stocks, futures and forex daily data.

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Great, now all they gotta do is fix the bid/ask time stamp issue that everyone's been asking about for the past 3+ years... Looks like they're still busy with ninja 7 beta and won't have time for that... oh and it looks like their new market data feed with a new api built from scratch... They had time for that.

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Here's hoping that this might prompt Zenfire to make some changes in order to compete better.

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I'm glad to see at least a better and free EOD provider included above and beyond Yahoo and not having to get minute data from ZenFire then setting my chart session time to match the RTH so I can then extrapolate my own daily data for futures.

We'll see how good the real-time service is.

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So I signed up to be a beta tester. Tried it just now, just to see what happens and got the following error. Went to the KT site, but it is still under construction. I have beta 16.

It says 08, not 10 for the date. What next???

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I get the same issue on futures free EOD

ZTrade101

I posted a message at the NT forum, will wait and see what the reply might be. The reason you are getting 06-08 is you must have your Daily chart set up for 2 years. 06-08 would be the first required contract to load data from to make a 2 year chart.

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Had a look at various futures contracts and daily data supplied via Kinetick. Here are my first impressions on the futures data

- I could only load continuous contracts (##-##), no individual contracts were available
- The continuous contracts were not backadjusted
- Some of the symbol maps (for example DX and KC) do not work
- The daily futures data is sometimes more false than correct (for example BC, CC, CT, EMD, GC, SI, HG)

The quality of the daily data is not impressive. It is actually worse than Interactive Brokers. Daily charts added.

Hope this will get better in some time.

Edited: Just to be fair, the charts below all use a false symbol mapping, once I changed the symbol mapping, the price data was correct, the volume data is still not convincing.

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The ### symbol must be loaded into instrument manager. I run bare bones, so I did this today.

It only went back a year and the trick is to load Zen-Fire 1st then Kinetick.

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Hi NT,

What is a kinetick connection?


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On release of next beta, any existing DTN/IQFeed user can create a Kinetick connection and plug in their DTN/IQFeed login credentials to test out this new feed. This access is temporary and will be removed once in production. In addition, there is a pre-configured EOD conection that is always there and free for historical stocks, futures and forex daily data.


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