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Startup found a way to give $0 Commission to trade equities

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Startup found a way to give $0 Commission to trade equities



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After graduating from Stanford, roommates Vladimir Tenev and Baiju Bhatt moved to New York, where they built trading platforms for some of the largest financial institutions in the world. They began to realize that electronic trading firms pay effectively nothing to place trades in the market yet charge investors up to $10 for each trade — and thus the idea for Robinhood was born. They soon ventured back to California to begin solving the problem of democratizing access to the markets.

https://www.robinhood.com/

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There's no such thing as free trading.

It's true that the marginal costs for brokers/clearers to take care of every additional share trade is close to $0. But you still have to pay software developers and IT guys to maintain databases; you have to pay lawyers to maintain compliance; and these guys are extremely expensive and have to be paid somehow.

Robinhood makes that money to pay their employees by selling their order flow to sophisticated firms such as Citadel, who thereafter skim those trades for their own book. (It's not surprising that Madoff was the guy who pioneered this idea.) Moreover, Robinhood's order flow is going to be very attractive to firms like Citadel because the people who are attracted to $0 trading are also - to be crude - the most foolish and disadvantaged. The expected (hidden) cost of being skimmed by Citadel could conceivably be much higher than a fixed commission.

A broker's duty has always been to ensure best execution and to act with no conflict of interest, and you could say that such a practice is an unethical violation of both duties.

What I cannot stand is that firms like IEX and Robinhood seem to make their business by targeting unsophisticated investors and removing value from services that they should be required to provide in a traditional broker/trading venue model (e.g. by slowing down their clients' trades, giving broker priority, or by selling their clients' trades off to an order flow internalizer like Citadel), and yet somehow marketing to their customers that this is good for them.

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They say it's a freemium model perhaps when you need charts you need to pay? Anyway are you saying stock are not as level playing field as future (not centralized)

 
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