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My bad, I quoted @CafeGrande without explaining - it's a good list, there's a handful on that list that would be able to go down under the number I suggested without making negotiations difficult for you.

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With all that money and Timber Hill know how, isn't IB capable of excellent order execution near enough or better than CQG?

The well capitalised issue is crucial and always takes me back to Interactive Brokers and their A-.

Lots of questions. All the replies are most appreciated.

There must be a straightforward solution that is close enough to optimal.


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As a non-member, I'd say you should expect no more than $2.82 per ES round trip all-in (including exchange, FCM commission and NFA fee) i.e. $0.25 FCM commission up to 10,000 contracts per month. Let me know if you need specific names.

@artemiso, where/how can a non-member get $0.25/contract commission without volume requirements?

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IB is about $1.30 roundtrip, but if I can get substantially better data and execution somewhere else, then paying $1-2 more may actually cheaper if it saves a tick here and there.

With all that money and Timber Hill know how, isn't IB capable of excellent order execution near enough or better than CQG?

@oceanbreeze, have you had any issues with speed/reliability of IB's order routing?

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IB is reliable.
I don't know if I have had IB speed issues (tick here tick there) because I have no proper way to compare IB to CQG for example.
IB and Tradestation are both reliable and quick (in my limited experience), just trying to make sure that I have data and platform in the right range considering my volume level, however meagre.


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@oceanbreeze, have you had any issues with speed/reliability of IB's order routing?

That's a good point. I am not having any issues with Tradestation or IB/Ninja or IB/Sierra, and all's well with my performance.

It does not appear that a high percentage of people in this forum use Tradestation. There are probably good reasons for that. If I could get a sample of those reasons, that would be great.

Using IB connected to Sierra or Ninja using third party data seems cobbled together, more to go wrong, compared to an all-in-one like CQG or Tradestation for that matter.

I think CQG turns out to be not too much more expensive than Tradestastion. Is that right?

What turns people off Tradestation?

If CQG is in a different league than Tradestation, why is that?

I don't imagine than an almost imperceptible difference in order routing and data speed is going to improve my returns.

That said, I like to have the right equipment, doesn't have to be perfect, just near enough optimal.


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I also noticed the lack of TS users. Most of them are on Tradestation's very own forum.

futures.io (formerly BMT) is primarily NT users. And if you check the breadth and usability of the NT forum, it probably shows why users have gravitated towards futures.io (formerly BMT).

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I also noticed the lack of TS users. Most of them are on Tradestation's very own forum.

futures.io (formerly BMT) is primarily NT users. And if you check the breadth and usability of the NT forum, it probably shows why users have gravitated towards futures.io (formerly BMT).

I like IB/NT with IQFeed, just seems strange to have to use third party front end and third party data to trade with IB.
If you code well enough (it's called EasyLanguage for a reason), it's easy to monitor a handful of futures symbols from Radarscreen. You can code your own signals letting you know where to look. All the time good traders spend waiting for good signals may be better spent executing a good signal on another symbol. That also reduces the tendency to see things that aren't there, to force trades. There are lots of symbols that offer ideal conditions throughout the day. Why stare at just one?

Anyway, with the three moving parts of IB NT and IQFeed, has anyone had any problems, such a freeze ups, trades not going through to IB, etc?

Has anyone had any major problems with Tradestation? Ghostly quiet is you ask that in the Tradestation forum!

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Has anyone had any major problems with Tradestation? Ghostly quiet is you ask that in the Tradestation forum!

Would be better asked in the Tradestation subforum instead of on this thread.

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