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Trading Apprentice
Tri State Area
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: TOS
Favorite Futures: es cl
 
Posts: 22 since Mar 2018
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Same here man.. the commissions are crazy with TDA when scalping ES :|.... How are u laiking the NTB and PC combo? Do u feel your fills are quicker then with TDA?... i'm more concerned about the fills. Let me know, thanks!


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Hey guys.

I've been trading with TDA for few years now. I started day trading futures recently and pay $300-500 for commissions on busy days, which is about 30% of my daily gains.

I'm considering NTB with Phillip Capital. PC looks much bigger firm than Dorman and does business internationally. Their website sucks tho. Can't believe in 2017 we get to see a website with a design from 1990s.

I read in earlier posts that Phillip Capital allows ACH transfers however when I emailed to NTB account services I was told that none of the brokerages support ACH since it's not secure (or smth like that)

Has anyone has experience with sending ACH transfer to Phillip Capital. On their website they say they have it, but on NTB withdrawal page we have an option for wires and checks. I wonder if we can directly send and withdraw via ACH from Phillip Capital not through NTB.

Anyone has any idea?
Also please share your experience with NTB and Phillip Capital or Dorman


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Evans GA/USA
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: NinjaTrader Brokerage - Philip Capital
Favorite Futures: NQ,ES,6E,CL
 
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Same here man.. the commissions are crazy with TDA when scalping ES :|.... How are u laiking the NTB and PC combo? Do u feel your fills are quicker then with TDA?... i'm more concerned about the fills. Let me know, thanks!

I have been using NTB with Phillip Capital for about 2 weeks now. I have only been using market orders (buy stop market, sell stop market, etc) and have had no lag in filling orders up to 5 contracts on NQ. Even early morning fills are quick. I have not traded ES as of yet but will in the future. Right now I am happy with the setup. I will update here if I get to trading more than 5 contracts.

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Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: TOS
Favorite Futures: es cl
 
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Excellent!... I was actually thinking all day today to switch to NTB. Although TDA did lower my futures commissions, I still pay more than NBT and the fills are super slow. Just the other day I watched my order just sit there at market for 30 sec and not get filled... I just need to try something else to get quicker fills.


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I have been using NTB with Phillip Capital for about 2 weeks now. I have only been using market orders (buy stop market, sell stop market, etc) and have had no lag in filling orders up to 5 contracts on NQ. Even early morning fills are quick. I have not traded ES as of yet but will in the future. Right now I am happy with the setup. I will update here if I get to trading more than 5 contracts.


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Platform: NinjaTrader, ThinkorSwim
Broker/Data: NinjaBroker
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I traded PC and NTB for about a year. I mailed a check to open the account... that felt a little sketchy. Guy on the phone was like make out a check to NTB and mail it to me and we'll set up an account... but once it was set up, I was able to link the PC account to my capital one 360 checking account and transfer funds. FWIW. Possible but maybe not published or supported. Like if you can originate ACH from another account, it works, but PC and NTB have no real portal from which you can manage ACH from their side.


When I opened my futures account earlier this year, I was advised that I had to wire the funds and that they did not accept ACH transfers.

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1973Hog View Post
When I opened my futures account earlier this year, I was advised that I had to wire the funds and that they did not accept ACH transfers.

yes, it's the FCM thing... just wire (expensive ) and u will have the funds in the trading acct the same day

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Futures Experience: Intermediate
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Favorite Futures: EU, SP, Crude CL
 
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I too am looking at a new account with Ninja Brokerage. While there is some helpful information on this thread (and a few other threads here) there isn't much in the way of solid information out there floating around from other outside sources. That makes me nervous.

The Ninja Brokerage website does contain some helpful information but it can be hard to find. There is no search function on their site, which makes me nervous.

And we all know how horribly the NinjaTrader forum is structured. Here again, there isn't much of a search function on their site, which makes me nervous.

I understand it is not unusual for a company to take the "splash" approach when constructing their websites. Splash up enough information to keep the search engines happy and then herd potential customers to a salesman, where he can back you into a corner and tell you how great he is. This is fairly common and it doesn't matter one whit if that particular approach makes me want to puke.

On the other hand, it is important to note that most users here on Futures.io use NinjaTrader.
61% of all threads are for NinjaTrader
12% TradeStation
And roughly 10% each for TOS, Sierra Charts and MultiCharts

Plus, I haven't noticed any unusually negative comments about Phillips Capital or Dorman, the two firms you must now chose from if opening a new Ninja Brokerage account. So while I might find their approach to websites and salesmen distasteful all that really matters in the end is whether or not they function to yours and my expectations. Apparently they do.

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