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Any news here? Anyone currently using NT + NT Brokerage and have experiences to share?

I opened an account with AMP. Haven't yet funded it, but will fund an account next week. I had kind of made up my mind about using AMP, but I'm having second thoughts and still consider Ninja + their brokerage since I'm so used to Ninja and would love to trade from it.

The ideal would be Ninja + AMP. And yes, I'd like to pay Ninja for a full license. But, they don't allow that option which is pretty odd to me.

Can't see how this is a good business model for them.

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Any news here? Anyone currently using NT + NT Brokerage and have experiences to share?

I opened an account with AMP. Haven't yet funded it, but will fund an account next week. I had kind of made up my mind about using AMP, but I'm having second thoughts and still consider Ninja + their brokerage since I'm so used to Ninja and would love to trade from it.

The ideal would be Ninja + AMP. And yes, I'd like to pay Ninja for a full license. But, they don't allow that option which is pretty odd to me.

Can't see how this is a good business model for them.

NT used to be a platform only, connecting to many brokers. A few years ago, an IB (Introducing Broker) ran into some difficulties and NT bought into them, going into the brokerage business also. That's when they cut back on the brokers they provided the platform for -- since they were now in competition with them, there may have been some issues on either side about continuing the relationship. They still furnish it for some.

Also and separately, there were issues they had with AMP at the time that led them to sever the relationship. AMP users of the platform who were in at that time were grandfathered, but no new ones are allowed.

There have been many things written about AMP on FIO over the years. Aside from whatever went on between them and @NinjaTrader, they sued @Big Mike and this forum over some things some members posted and some actions Mike took (and they lost, resoundingly.) I make no comment about them -- I have no reason think they would not be a good broker for you, and many traders use them -- but if you are curious you might do a search on AMP in the Search box at the top right of every page, and see what comes up.

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NT used to be a platform only, connecting to many brokers. A few years ago, an IB (Introducing Broker) ran into some difficulties and NT bought into them, going into the brokerage business also. That's when they cut back on the brokers they provided the platform for -- since they were now in competition with them, there may have been some issues on either side about continuing the relationship. They still furnish it for some.

Also and separately, there were issues they had with AMP at the time that led them to sever the relationship. AMP users of the platform who were in at that time were grandfathered, but no new ones are allowed.

There have been many things written about AMP on FIO over the years. Aside from whatever went on between them and @NinjaTrader, they sued @Big Mike and this forum over some things some members posted (and they lost, resoundingly.) I make no comment about them -- I have no reason think they would not be a good broker for you, and many traders use them -- but if you are curious you might do a search on AMP in the Search box at the top right of every page, and see what comes up.

Bob.

Hi, Bob,

Thank you for this comment. I was aware of some of this already, but certainly not everything you just said. I've done quite a few searches on both AMP and Ninja. Both seems to return both positives and negatives. Overall, AMP seems to turn out quite decent. Overall.

In comparison, I haven't read that many reviews on NT which is why I'm asking once again.

In the past, I used NT + Interactive Brokers. An option that's still available. However, IB's intraday margins are simply too high for me at these market levels and with this volatility.

Another selling point for AMP with an intraday trader like me is that they offer intraday margin until 15:55 and not 15:45 like Ninja. Also, I'd prefer a software that would be supported by multiple brokers. For futures trading, Ninja is basically offered only by IB and NT themselves. I hate to be tied down to only one broker.

But, in the end, I'd love to use Ninja, both for charting and execution.

Mind me asking what brokerage you're using? I see you use Ninja and trade ES? I also trade ES exclusively.

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Hi, Bob,

Thank you for this comment. I was aware of some of this already, but certainly not everything you just said. I've done quite a few searches on both AMP and Ninja. Both seems to return both positives and negatives. Overall, AMP seems to turn out quite decent. Overall.

In comparison, I haven't read that many reviews on NT which is why I'm asking once again.

In the past, I used NT + Interactive Brokers. An option that's still available. However, IB's intraday margins are simply too high for me at these market levels and with this volatility.

Another selling point for AMP with an intraday trader like me is that they offer intraday margin until 15:55 and not 15:45 like Ninja. Also, I'd prefer a software that would be supported by multiple brokers. For futures trading, Ninja is basically offered only by IB and NT themselves. I hate to be tied down to only one broker.

But, in the end, I'd love to use Ninja, both for charting and execution.

Mind me asking what brokerage you're using? I see you use Ninja and trade ES? I also trade ES exclusively.

I have used AMP, and had no issues with them. I have and have had a few other accounts, including Topstep, which uses NT Brokerage. It was quite routine, no issues.

You can use SierraChart with AMP, and it is a good program once you get used to it. It is widely used by many brokers. I also do prefer NT, however.

I see many traders posting here who are with NT Brokerage, which I am sure you have as well, and it does not seem there are more issues than with any other broker (aside from margins, brokers have gotten pretty generic .) I would have no reluctance to use them, although I do agree with your point about preferring a platform that connects to many brokers.

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Thank you for your input, Bob.


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You can use SierraChart with AMP, and it is a good program once you get used to it. It is widely used by many brokers. I also do prefer NT, however.

That was the plan if I went with AMP, but haven't yet decided.

I wish Ninja would rather 'open up' again and start offering their platform more widely. I can't understand if this is profitable for them or rather more profitable than offering the platform to whoever wants to pay for it.

They could still run their own brokerage, IMO. If their service is good, that's what matters.

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Margin Information

@NinjaTrader

I went to the website and the margin information has disappeared. Why was it deleted? Thanks.


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@NinjaTrader

I went to the website and the margin information has disappeared. Why was it deleted? Thanks.

We just pushed live an updated to our website. The margin information has been consolidated with itemized and all in commission rates.

Go here https://ninjatrader.com/Futures, scroll down and click on "View Commission" and on the modal window that pops up, click on View All-In Rates.

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brokage in canada

hi I am in Canada
do you take Canadian customer or any brokage in canda tha tallow ninjatrader platform

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hi I am in Canada
do you take Canadian customer or any brokage in canda tha tallow ninjatrader platform

I have private messaged you.

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I trade ES, CL and some YM. I also like to keep an eye on the cash indexes and market internals from the NYSE.

Is it possible for me to view and chart both data from CME and NYSE using Ninjatrader? I'm looking at NYSE data like up volume minus down volume, advancing minus declining issues, TICK, TRIN, VIX/VIXY.

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