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NinjaTrader Brokerage accounts held at Phillip Capital are able to fund their account via ACH,

How? is there a webform to trigger the ACH transfer? or does the client need to have a bank account with ACH origination ability?

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How? is there a webform to trigger the ACH transfer? or does the client need to have a bank account with ACH origination ability?

Clients initiate the ACH transfer from their bank, so you would need ACH origination ability through that bank.

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Why don't you use their online withdrawal request?

It works as described.

https://ninjatraderbrokerage.com/Online-Withdrawal.php

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@NT Brokerage , @NinjaTrader ,
Would you also please consider to lower intraday margin for Euro Stoxx 50 (FESX) ? Right now you have it at 2070 € (89% of overnight margin)

For comparison,
AMP Futures has it at $500
TradeStation at 562 €
DeepDiscountTrading at 594 €

@ NinjaTrader

Will the new mini FDAX contract from Eurex, that should launch 28th of october, be added ?
Full intraday FDAX margin is at $2500, can we expect it at $500 ?

Could you please reduce FESX margins again to match competitors ?


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@ NinjaTrader

Could you please reduce FESX margins again to match competitors ?

Will the new mini FDAX contract from Eurex, that should launch 28th of october, be added ?
Full intraday FDAX margin is at $2500, can we expect it at $500 ?

Could you please reduce FESX margins again to match competitors ?

Let me just say you are out of your mind, in the best and nicest way possible. FDAX overnight margin is 25k I believe, and you want $500 intraday? Please just accept the fact you should not be trading this contract unless you have 25k per contract! Even $2500 intraday margin is pure insanity.

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Mike, I've encountered many losses from either technical failures or ethical problems or collapses at brokers during my career. I now let the minimum money amounts at brokers, bare minimum, period, not more than I need to trade at max leverage or close (you hear me right). The rest is safe at my bank account. This is pure choice and has nothing to do with overall assets nor real leverage used.
Actually I apply a type of trading which I call "cellular culture" because I cut my assets in risk sizes allocation that I risk fully and leverage as the trading sequence evolves.
Some fail, some rise exponentially, and then I split the winnings and start all over again.
Maybe you fund your account fully and admit you can risk it in 100 risk units, while I put only 1 risk unit at a time and call it "a shot" and will allow me multiple over x period of time only.

I'm definitely not out of my mind, all is thought carefully Since I care about the strategical aspects of CFDs, I'd care to retrieve close to the same properties on futures. I like split sizes to the most little possible to scale in-out, hedge and pyramid all at the same time. I try to trade most timeframes at the same time into trend and countertrend positions altogether in order to not lose time and benefit from ranges until a real swing trade happens which I'm enough humble not to forecast.

@NinjaTrader, please consider : we are not one, we are many


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Mike, I've encountered many losses from either technical failures or ethical problems or collapses at brokers during my career.

Completely understand. But in my opinion, any broker that gives ridiculous intraday margins as you request is the wrong kind of broker to do business with. Those are the highest risk brokers at blowing up.

I also keep the minimal amount at my broker. My broker is InteractiveBrokers, and the day margin is $13k for FDAX and something like $2500 for ES. Personally, I welcome the high margins because IB is serious about risk. I absolutely cannot say the same about brokers that have ridiculously low margins.

As for what kind of advice you receive on the site, I can only speak personally. I am telling you that using ridiculously low margins (insanely high leverage) is a sure fire way to blow up your account and end your career. Don't go down this path! My advice is meant to help. Most people that want $400 ES margins and other ridiculous things are attracted to the kind of broker that just churns customers in and out as fast as possible, and are very inexperienced traders.

Anyway, good luck. I spoke out only because there are some of us that want our brokers to stop the insanity of low day margins.

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I understand your stance Mike, as leading your site to good manners towards the masses.
I have traded futures for a number of years and switched to CFDs for also a couple of years and in Europe we are many enjoying the benefits (I was one of the leading moderator from the biggest french trading forums)

Futures and CFDs are two different worlds... Cannot be compared but it is to be known and experienced some time.

The funny thing is now that Eurex is trying to compete against CFDs officially by introducing smaller contracts so there is something going on in the air... But to match both worlds, margins will have to go lower I'm afraid as leverage on CFDs is possibly higher
...although... at the same time you also enjoy added benefits like guaranteed stoplosses which by paying a small extra, you will not lose from, say (just one case), an overweekend market gap at the opening price of Monday for exemple : the gap over the stop level will be credited back to your account ... so really, you cannot compare the risks at both ends, they are SO different !

Anyway, some initial bucketshops have now turned into major leading brokerage corporations quoted on stock exchanges and if you analyse the yearly accounts of the leaders, let's just take IG Markets, then you realise they grew fucking solid since they earned most clients losses for so many years they sat on a carpet of gold and now they are unlikely to crash (even BNS losses were small, although huge, just a drop into the pool)

Thanks for your time


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Server side OCO orders with the Demo

I'm testing right now NT8 with the NinjaTrader Brokerage Demo (Continnum).

While in the demo, server side OCO orders are not working? They are working only on customer side?

Is that correct?

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I'm testing right now NT8 with the NinjaTrader Brokerage Demo (Continnum).

While in the demo, server side OCO orders are not working? They are working only on customer side?

Is that correct?

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Michael

If you are submitting orders to the "Sim101" account then the OCO and order fill logic is client side. Submitting live orders to the exchange then OCO is server side.

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