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Free real-time paper trading?

Hi there!

I'm new to trading (currently an investor, not a trader) and I'm trying to learn. I am trying to find a real trading tool (with indicators, etc) that offers free real-time quotes for paper trading.

I've gone through a couple of tools so far:

IB requires you to open a brokerage account.
TOS is only good for 60 days for paper trading
Ninjatraders quotes are random-- I want to be able to get a feel for how the real market works

etc.

I would prefer not to open a brokerage account if I don't have to and I want the quotes to be real.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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Is it too early to vote for "Post of the year" because I have made up my mind already.

Seriosuly: Data costs money! If you dont want to commit to a brokerage, pay for the data. NinjaTrader hooks up to DTN/IQ or Kinetick.

PM with any questions about optimusfutures (800) 771-6748 (561) 367 8686. THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL RISK OF LOSS IN FUTURES TRADING.

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I would prefer not to open a brokerage account if I don't have to and I want the quotes to be real.

Every business needs an investment to start.
Looking at the costs to open a IB account (example) which is needed later if you decide to trade
a real account - these are near nothing...
You just deposit some amount you do not need elsewhere and start your SIM trading. If you decide
to stop trading just take your deposit out.

As @mattz mentioned - data costs - ANY data.
Just include those costs to the list of fixed monthly costs for computer, internet, power, office etc.
That data cost position will not be the most expensive one in the list!

If you are looking for *free* data you might use the Yahoo!Finance data which is 15 to 20mins
delayed - for testing reasons and for getting a "feeling of the markets" this might be the way to go.
Here a link to the connection API: YahooFinanceAPIs - yahoo-finance-managed - Yahoo! Managed - The .NET Wrapper for Yahoo! WebService - Google Project Hosting

GFIs1

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MT4

Hi @lunixer,

If you wish to learning about trading and don't mind the type of instrument and brokerage at this stage, you can try MT4 demo platform for spot forex.

Advantages:

1. The data is live (and sometimes 'better' than on a live platform, depending on brokerage) and you can paper trade the main currency pairs for a month.

2. If you wish to open a live account in order to have a demo platform with no monthly expiry, it can be as low as USD300, which is about a tenth of what normal brokerages would require.

3. Most MT4 platforms have the usual indicators and you can find more in forexfactory.com.


Disadvantages:
1. Most of these MT4 brokers are bucket shops, as spot forex is OTC trading, so each broker is basically a market maker and may trade against you. This is why data on a live account may not be as accurate as that on a demo account as the MT4 broker uses special programs to hunt your stops.

2. The alternative markets provided by MT4 brokers are CFDs, which may not be good trading instruments as they are also OTC.

3. People tend to blow their live accounts time and again because of the lack of understanding of the high leverage in spot forex.


Alternatively, you may wish to open a combine account with topsteptrader. They provide a live demo account with Sierra Chart as one of charting and trading platforms. SC has a sharp learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, it is good.

Hope these help..

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There are free platform like

FreeStockCharts.com - Web's Best Streaming Realtime Stock Charts - Free

www.tradingview.com

Netstation
NetDania - Overview -

ProRealtime
https://www.prorealtime.com/en/

From CQG you can get free realtimedata for several platform

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Look at the desired market carefully


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Hi @lunixer,

If you wish to learning about trading and don't mind the type of instrument and brokerage at this stage, you can try MT4 demo platform for spot forex.

One instrument can *not* be replaced by another...
If you are used to have invested in the stock market and you wish to trade (intraday or swing) in this market
you might try the futures with leverage and of course higher risk.
One can not find the market behaviour in another market to adapt it to the desired one.
So stick to the instrument you have found great for your trading style or the market you have already got some
experience in.
There is a learning curve in EVERY instrument - so concentrate.
The more you KNOW YOUR MARKET the easier it is to swim in the bay of big sharks!

GFIs1

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One instrument can *not* be replaced by another...So stick to the instrument you have found great for your trading style or the market you have already got some
experience in.
There is a learning curve in EVERY instrument - so concentrate.
The more you KNOW YOUR MARKET the easier it is to swim in the bay of big sharks!

GFIs1

Good reply from GFs1. I didn't check lunixer's profile when I responded to his question, so maybe my response doesn't meet his request.

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