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AMP Futures and Mirus (NinjaTrader Brokerage as of June 30 2014), which one is better

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and AMP is 66 w00t!

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A message I sent to Eliot Wickersheimer at Mirus Futures:


Big Mike
This is not the first time I've seen Hard Eight (prop firm) mentioned with regards to Mirus. Would you mind clarifying this and your relationship with Hard Eight?

His reply:

Mirus Futures
I saw your comments about Mirus Futures and wanted to let you know that Hard8 does not own any part of Mirus Futures. Hard8 is a Chicago based proprietary trading group that has no interaction with Mirus Futures in any way. Two individuals in Hard8 are also co-owners in a small Chicago based private equity firm. That firm made an investment in a firm formerly known as 7ticks, which was owned by the same parent company as Mirus Futures. Because of this indirect relationship to Mirus Futures, NFA regulation requires that they be listed as “owner only” participants in the company. These individuals have no involvement with the day to day operations of Mirus Futures, and more importantly, Mirus Futures has absolutely no relationship with Hard8 or any other proprietary trading firm.

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Moderator Note


Just a follow-up note (after the last banned user) -- Amp Futures was banned from futures.io (formerly BMT) a while back because of the way they conducted themselves on the forum. I have evidence of this in server logs. Due to a legal threat from Amp Futures, I won't go into detail here.




Mike

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Glad to hear the good work on keeping fake accounts from vendors away Big Mike. This is one of few sites that moderate this problem. Fake reviews and anecdotes are all over other sites.

In general sad to hear AMP was doing that. Mirus seems to be getting plenty of business based on their good rep and they don't need to resort to pushy tactics with their customer service. But then it seems the futures retail trading world is that much smaller in finding brokers to trust.

I hope Atlas is just some fake organization with proofless "reports" and "ratings" created out of spite from a competitor. Would hate to see historical firms such as RCG or Dorman go under from caught scandals and ponzis.


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I don't know what on Earth to think of that really, when Goldman Sachs Atlas proprietary risk rating is 82, and RCG is 34. PFG was 37 and Credit Suisse is 69

could you post a link to the regulatory grading agency report that you are referring to, or whatever other source that those rating come from?

it would make interesting reading,

in fact, what we try to do (to add credibility to our claims) is include the link to the article or source we reference, when we make such claims, otherwise they are (such claims) are just opinions....

hey, due diligence requires that us speculators, speculate on facts, not, well, to be polite .....

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Moderator Note


Just a follow-up note (after the last banned user) -- Amp Futures was banned from futures.io (formerly BMT) a while back because of the way they conducted themselves on the forum, created multiple accounts, posted messages promoting their service when pretending to be a customer, pose as customers and post derogatory comments about other brokers, etc.




Mike


good job Mike,

Those guys were caught on other sites doing something similar, or were suspected of such,

either way, that's some business model,

where they treat their intended customer base as idiots, incapable of higher rationale thought, and incapable of forming alliances (such as these threads and forums) to protect other traders.... from such abuse.

NYC is filled, as well as Chicago, with desperate losers forming companies and acting in a similar manner....

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Mirus

My two cents, dear ladies and gentlemen,

Just opened an account with Mirus/Dorman, two days of trading so far, so good. Data stream is almost 100% stable, commissions are very low and customer rep is always there to help. I am an overseas client using a legal entity the process of submitting documents was quite cumbersome, but Mirus took time explaining everything, collecting the stuff and passing it on to Dorman, I didnt even talk to anyone from Dorman.

So, no complains. Using free Lite NT version, just ordered license for the full version, and even here Mirus lady is there to help checking in if the guys got the payment from me. Hope they will keep my funds segregated from the hands of dirty crooks.

Profits to all of us!

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I switched from AMP to Mirus clearing through RCG at the beginning of the year and it's been fine so far. Mirus customer service is very responsive and polite. The only issue I have had was when I wired funds to fund the new account, no one seemed to notice until I brought it to their attention. But once I did, they had the new account ready to go in a matter of minutes. Mirus also has good flat rate commissions including unpopular instruments like M6E as well.

Not really related to Mirus, but RCG's websites for statements (Archive/passport) are pretty basic and remind me of websites in 1999, but they do work fine.

I see RCG second to last in this list by Atlas and don't know if its worth being concerned about? Dorman is higher in this magical list, so maybe it would be worth considering switching

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I switched from AMP to Mirus clearing through RCG at the beginning of the year and it's been fine so far. Mirus customer service is very responsive and polite. The only issue I have had was when I wired funds to fund the new account, no one seemed to notice until I brought it to their attention. But once I did, they had the new account ready to go in a matter of minutes. Mirus also has good flat rate commissions including unpopular instruments like M6E as well.

Not really related to Mirus, but RCG's websites for statements (Archive/passport) are pretty basic and remind me of websites in 1999, but they do work fine.

I see RCG second to last in this list by Atlas and don't know if its worth being concerned about? Dorman is higher in this magical list, so maybe it would be worth considering switching

I just opened an account with Mirus & Dorman this week. It was an easy online application and they send you an application to transfer funds from current broker to Dorman.

I have had no problems with my current broker, but found some disturbing past information and I felt Zen-Fire is a better date provider.

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dmh24 View Post
I see RCG second to last in this list by Atlas and don't know if its worth being concerned about? Dorman is higher in this magical list, so maybe it would be worth considering switching

Atlas discussion thread:
https://futures.io/brokers-data-feeds/21685-atlas-ratings-fcms.html

Basically, I wouldn't worry about Atlas ratings at all.

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