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Rude?...you are putting a GIB with 3 people total firm in the same thread as AMP an FCM with 3 people in new accounts department.

I was actually impressed and happy for Optimus..I would love to have them as an IB...did not mean to upset you

If Optimus was an IB for AMP I would leave Optimus. I sure would not want to clear through AMP. Why would you even make a statement like that? Sounds like you think AMP is so superior that other brokers (your competition) should work for you.

Good grief...

Really anyone looking at any broker should look at who they clear through. I would much rather clear through Vision Financial which is who Optimus uses than clear through AMP self clear. Important to compare Apples to Apples. Optimus provides great customer service and Vision Financial provides the rest. I think it is misleading for you to make statements like Optimus has only 3 people when it also has a large clearing firm they work with that processes trades etc..

Besides if you continue to treat people the way you have acted on this thread you won't have any real consistent traders stay with AMP. You will just become a chop shop that signs people up until they blow out account then sign the next guy up. Guess those 3 people you have in new accounts department make sense.

"The day I became a winning trader was the day it became boring. Daily losses no longer bother me and daily wins no longer excited me. Took years of pain and busting a few accounts before finally got my mind right. I survived the darkness within and now just chillax and let my black box do the work."

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Amp Questionable

I knew Dan would show his true colors sooner than later. If he spent just abit of time serving his clients instead of always trying to justify himself, maybe he would provide some kind of service.
Dan for you to say my information is inaccurate, like the past, you never read what is being sent to you.
You claim about my 10 emails saved from Amp, can you read English, I said I have over 10 emails saved but didn't say they were from you, only one of them was from you the other 9 were my constant emails I kept sending to you to answer my first one because you didn't reply to it. With all your staff and yourself, noone there could answer one stinking email. I see you haven't changed and can't tell the truth.
As previously mentioned, you shot yourself in the foot and will pay the consequences for it, people can read through you.
As Big Mike mentioned, this blog is for traders to share their actual experiences with each other, good or bad, but don't expect us to lie to build you up because you have a big ego about yourself and your firm. As for your self righteous manner, Matt at Optimus never belittled me or ignored me. Are they perfect, of course not, but he always took the time to try to rectify any concerns I had which is 100% more than you ever provided. You better change your attitude quick while you still have some clients.
I rest my case, the responses received verify what I said from the beginning, do you really want to deal with someone like that?

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@Ilovetotrade, I still have not received any communication with you except on this thread. No Call, No PM, - No email. How can i take you serious if you can not even provide me an account number to review?

As i said before, I can not keep this going until you give me some concrete information. All you have to do is send me your AMP account number, then I can verify your statements.


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Amp Questionable

I left Amp over a year ago and NOW you want that information, where were you then? If you couldn't and wouldn't do anything then, I expect you to do anyhing NOW. I have spent more than enough time with NO results in the past, why should I trust that all of a sudden you had a change of heart - which would be great - but trust and respect has to be earned, not demanded. You were given many opportunities to redeem yourself in the past, you didn't and I am still out $9600, issue a cheque to me for that amount and then and only then would I spend any time in giving you the opportunity to redeem yourselves.
Almost forgot, you claiming lower commissions, I checked my saved emails and noticed that 2 times I had to have you reverse commissions because you charged higher commissions than we agreed upon. So much for integrity.
This is my last post about this, just wanted others to know who they will be dealing with if they decide to go with your firm. I have better things to do with my life now then spend time with you now (which I have had more feedback from you now then the total time you gave me then). Seems you have more time now, lack of clients or maybe just maybe you did have a change of heart. Hope it is the latter.

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I pm Dan to take care of getting rid of EUREX fee for non-professional trader status. He promptly took care of it so that I didn't even have to call him. The other time I had a question about how an order was executed and after a thorough research his people came back with the answer that addressed my concern to my satisfactory. I understand most posters post because they are not satisfy or unhappy with Amp level of services. And there are people like me who have no complains and don't feel the need to post. I also tried many brokers before I selected Amp so I think it is best that if people are looking for a broker they should try the service and decide for themself. I have no problem of recomm Amp as a broker for those who bother to ask. I could be bias as I am their client.

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If Optimus was an IB for AMP I would leave Optimus. I sure would not want to clear through AMP. Why would you even make a statement like that? Sounds like you think AMP is so superior that other brokers (your competition) should work for you.

Good grief...

Really anyone looking at any broker should look at who they clear through. I would much rather clear through Vision Financial which is who Optimus uses than clear through AMP self clear. Important to compare Apples to Apples. Optimus provides great customer service and Vision Financial provides the rest. I think it is misleading for you to make statements like Optimus has only 3 people when it also has a large clearing firm they work with that processes trades etc..

Besides if you continue to treat people the way you have acted on this thread you won't have any real consistent traders stay with AMP. You will just become a chop shop that signs people up until they blow out account then sign the next guy up. Guess those 3 people you have in new accounts department make sense.

I wanted to second the support of Optimus. I have been with Dorman, MFGlobal, InteractiveBrokers, and Tradestation. I have found working with Optimus the easiest and most reliable. The IB data feed is much less reliable than what I get via Optimus/Rithmic, and the Vision Financial trade desk can handle all technical / transaction issues. To be honest I really have not had many issues at all. In contrast I have had lots of issues with IB and TWS interfaces. In particular using Ninja through TWS was not the most reliable. In comparison, Vision connects directly to NT and has proven fast and reliable.

I recall one time I had a really strange technical issue and called into Vision tech support. I allowed them to log onto my computer and we worked it through. It was related to a very low volume contract which was rolling over to the next month. So it looked like I was not getting data, when it was just so low volume that it faked me out. They were really helpful and we worked out the expected volume and the correct rollover contract.

So it is important to understand where/how support is derived. You can sign up for a big firm and be a small fish, or you can sign up for a smaller firm and be a respected client. You have to ask yourself, "what does the big firm bring to the table?" If you get all the customer service you will ever need, all the reliability and speed of execution, same or lower commissions, then why are you with the big firm?

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Another user, @rounder8, may have an opinion on AMP Futures, and could maybe provide some details to @AMP Trading.
He has already put some details in this post of his journal, and it's very scarry...

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Another user, @rounder8, may have an opinion on AMP Futures, and could maybe provide some details to @AMP Trading.
He has already put some details in this post of his journal, and it's very scarry...

Sam that is every traders worst nightmare. Really bad.

"The day I became a winning trader was the day it became boring. Daily losses no longer bother me and daily wins no longer excited me. Took years of pain and busting a few accounts before finally got my mind right. I survived the darkness within and now just chillax and let my black box do the work."
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I've had similar experiences with AMP as Rounder8. Not that great of a loss but unexplainable just the same. And I can surely testify of their rudness. I'm looking for a good recorder so I can record my charts.

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