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Issue With Zenfire

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Zen-Fire's security flaw lies with its SSLv2 dependency.


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Silvester17 View Post
@artemiso,

I don't know what the motives are to make such allegations. please provide some evidence.

in the meantime I'm pretty confident zen-fire is far from going out of business. for me the rithmic news is more positive than negative.

Well, I just want to say that the recent problems with Zen-Fire have exonerated me of any false allegation. It's unfortunate that a few people have decided not to heed my warning.

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artemiso View Post
Well, I just want to say that the recent problems with Zen-Fire have exonerated me of any false allegation. It's unfortunate that a few people have decided not to heed my warning.

LOL

just to remind you, your allegations were that zen-fire stopped all development and will cease to exist soon. both allegations are false.

what happened today is no doubt very frustrating, but certainly no reason to question everything. it was pretty clear that this update was very crucial. so I didn't even think about trading today

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LOL

just to remind you, your allegations were that zen-fire stopped all development and will cease to exist soon. both allegations are false.

what happened today is no doubt very frustrating, but certainly no reason to question everything. it was pretty clear that this update was very crucial. so I didn't even think about trading today

As you've seen in PM, my posts have been very justified. And you even agreed:


Silvester17 - Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:32:02 -0500
...hopefully you'll get a better answer as why the api is no longer available for new developments.

Again, anyone who has taken a look at the C++ API documentation will agree with me. (Which is probably why Sierra Chart dropped them, I'm guessing, since SC is written in native C++.) It is pretty probable that the underlying backend that was "Zen-Fire" no longer exists. I'm guessing that they stopped all development on "Zen-Fire" as it used to be called, and have rebadged a new project as "Zen-Fire" to reassure confidence.

I do admire you however for your steadfast dedication towards your broker and express my thanks for the suggestion that I call Mirus - though I'm not a client, at least not personally. I like keeping myself up to date with different ISVs and retail brokers' platforms, but it is none of my concern that they fail or stop development.

Have a happy New Year

 
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This is not how Rithmic runs its business and not the impression they gave me after 5 years of a
working relationship. The announcement was a professional decision to inform traders (customers), so they can make their own decisions going forward.
They did not put down anyone, claimed superiority or implied that anyone should trade over their data.

Well, I don't hold anything against Rithmic, but the way the situation is unfolding makes me pretty confident that it's Rithmic ditched ZenFire (and on a very short notice) and not the other way around as new ZenFire is apparently far from being ready for production use at this point. And I mean both server side and API / 3rd party trading software support.

 
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As you've seen in PM, my posts have been very justified. And you even agreed:



Again, anyone who has taken a look at the C++ API documentation will agree with me. (Which is probably why Sierra Chart dropped them, I'm guessing, since SC is written in native C++.) It is pretty probable that the underlying backend that was "Zen-Fire" no longer exists. I'm guessing that they stopped all development on "Zen-Fire" as it used to be called, and have rebadged a new project as "Zen-Fire" to reassure confidence.

I do admire you however for your steadfast dedication towards your broker and express my thanks for the suggestion that I call Mirus - though I'm not a client, at least not personally. I like keeping myself up to date with different ISVs and retail brokers' platforms, but it is none of my concern that they fail or stop development.

Have a happy New Year

@artemiso,

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not mean that you call mirus, I was suggestion you talk to zen-fire like I did.

and no, I do not agree:
 
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...hopefully you'll get a better answer as why the api is no longer available for new developments.

there's a simple reason why. and I'm pretty sure zen-fire is very happy to explain that to you.

happy new year to you too


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Zenfire Disaster

I have been having SERIOUS probs since Sunday Dec 29. I wrote into broker and recieved an off the cuff, superficial answer. I replied 4 times and finally gave up. Monday was worse, tues a little better but still horrible. Today is a repeat of Tuesday. This is business suicide 101. They did not proof their work, they did not listen to the users, they insulted the users giving poor responses to the concerns voiced. I am looking for a new broker and provider.... any suggestions???

Bob


Nyati View Post
Hello all,
I'm having an issue with Zenfire's live feed on the 6E (6/13). The issue is that the live feed appears to be showing a price which is about 8 ticks higher than the actual market price.

I know the live price is incorrect because I can briefly see the actual market price when I reload the chart. Upon reloading the chart, the historical prices are shown accurately so this is just an issue with the last price shown by the live feed.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions on resolving this issue.


 
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Mirus told me a while back they were developing an internal system called Big Tick so my guess is they are planning a migration away from Zen Fire

 
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I have been having SERIOUS probs since Sunday Dec 29. I wrote into broker and recieved an off the cuff, superficial answer. I replied 4 times and finally gave up. Monday was worse, tues a little better but still horrible. Today is a repeat of Tuesday. This is business suicide 101. They did not proof their work, they did not listen to the users, they insulted the users giving poor responses to the concerns voiced. I am looking for a new broker and provider.... any suggestions???

Bob

Received this morning from Mirus. Seems the ZenFire problem is system wide not broker-specific. We're just going to have to wait it out until all the problems have been solved.

"ZenFire Status Update:
January 2nd, 2014 - 9:00 am CT (10:00 am ET)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Traders,

A number of ZenFire users have been experiencing connection interruptions this morning. ZenFire is currently working to address the related issue however, we suggest our traders avoid live trading until connection stability is restored.

We will provide a further update once more information is available. "

After all, it's what you learn AFTER you know it all, that counts!
 
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I tried BigTick with NT when it was first released. I had a ton of probs and finally took my NT back to Zen. I do have another Mirus accnt with BigTick and it has been mostly stable through the fire storm. I dont know how NT works with BigTick now. You may want ot talk to Anthony or Thian at Mirus before you make the switch. Let us know how you fair

Bob


adkelley View Post
Mirus told me a while back they were developing an internal system called Big Tick so my guess is they are planning a migration away from Zen Fire



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