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I am not exactly sure how to determine the precise price for an equivalent CQG set of instrument and data feeds; their page at Products | CQG, Inc. doesn't seem to specifically offer pricing solely for the datafeed, but may bundle it with their other products. In general terms and without doing specific research for you, the cost for datafeeds can be as little as $60/month (Kinetick?, but may not include markets like the Russell, Brent, FDAX, etc) and from past memory, Rithmic, which is likely upwards of $90). Bear in mind too, that a datafeed is one thing, but, entering and exiting trades is determine by whatever broker you choose, and thus their infrastructure to successfully route your trade to your instrument's exchange.

My point simply in my posts(s) was that there are many bundled solutions from brokers or other sources, that will provide for an incredibly high quality datafeed at minimal cost. And, my advice is to pick a reputable unfiltered data source, and not spend silly amounts of time exploring that avenue, when, it is the quality and success of each of our abilities to successfully trade in to and out of positions, that are the real cornerstone of making it or breaking it as a trader.

I am using Ninja with CQG and I trade with a 6500 volume chart, during the day I will reload the historial data maybe 5 times to make sure I am getting all the correct info. I copy my chart and look the next day at the trades and always the chart candles change. So if I get Kinetick can do I need 2 ninja lic to run one with CQG to trade and one to see Kinetick feed to see the correct data? If I get kinetick when I download the historical data with the chart look the same tomorrow as it will live?
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I am using Ninja with CQG and I trade with a 6500 volume chart, during the day I will reload the historial data maybe 5 times to make sure I am getting all the correct info. I copy my chart and look the next day at the trades and always the chart candles change. So if I get Kinetick can do I need 2 ninja lic to run one with CQG to trade and one to see Kinetick feed to see the correct data? If I get kinetick when I download the historical data with the chart look the same tomorrow as it will live?
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Your tick chart is (slightly) changing every time for different reasons; there is nothing wrong with the data. Rather, when dealing with tick and volume bars, each bar is made up of a fixed number of ticks or trades but they are different trades because the chart is started based on what is defined under "Data Series" to load for example 7 days worth of data; if you are loading lets say a 500 tick chart, (I believe) Ninja calculates backwards from now, going back exactly 7 days, and starts plotting that first bar with whatever the price was exactly 7 days ago. But, each time you reload or bring up even the same instrument on the same value tick chart, because time has advanced, you are prone to get a different starting tick (thus a different traded price) for each and every bar on your tick bar chart, and hence the high/low/open/close will be at different points, and bars will have different wicks on both the top and bottom of the bar.

Unless you are having disconnects from your datafeed, I don't see a need to reload historical data, ie 5 times per day. The fact that you are seeing different bars, just represents different trades, from varying bar start times, being stuffed into each bar, and the actual trades going into each bar, are prone to change. Hope that makes sense.

More on that here as well as here.

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