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I used Mirus/Zenfire/Ninja combination & it all behaved perfectly for months, then started to become unreliable...freezing, data delays etc. without explanation. Read previous posts ....funny how brokers want to blame their clients & not investigate the problem!!

Now I use Kinetick & the data feed is fantastic. Well worth the small monthly fee - just a cost of doing business is how I regard it.

Free is not always good when you are operating in a high risk environment. I have learnt that very expensive lesson.

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Cloudy,

I didn't really answer your question properly - I was referring to live trading.

I sometimes use sim with Zenfire/Ninja and have found that the sim platform is very good re fills /slippage.

However, sometimes I notice it is slow to fill sell orders though so if it is at the price you want then sometimes I just close the trade. No point in watching it move away from your order.

Compared to E-signal's sim trading, it is FAR superior re fills. E-Signal would have you in/out sometimes 10 ticks away from your price. Very frustrating when you are looking for precision with entries.

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Thanks Pipstalker. Yes I was mainly referring to live trading. I'm doing fine on sim so far. Hard to believe how could Mirus keep business with that kind of freezing and dropouts you mentioned..did it occur constantly when it started to occur? suspiciously during high trading times?

Thanks.

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Hi Cloudy

I first noticed it a few months ago. At first I would spend up to an hour trying to log onto Ninja - main problem. Then the platform would stop working / data feed would stop/ computer freezing - especially at news times / reboot etc...we've all been there, I'm sure.

I was putting up with this "non-performance" stuff, & feeling even less confident about placing a trade with unreliable platform. Who is at fault? I was never sure, & no-one was interested!

Then I was online with a trading group ... I noticed their data was way ahead of mine...15-20 minutes.
Again, the broker said its because I'm wireless (I'm not) & a plethora of other reasons why I was at fault.

(BTW lately I notice an increase in complaints about platforms freezing / systems crashing etc. just as I was experiencing.)

So I started with Kinetick just over a month ago and the rest is history. Honestly, haven't had a moments concern with them, customer service is instantaneous - they have even called me (Australia) to ensure everything working ok, to explain the different connections etc which all took a bit of time.

And I have the added bonus of actually being able to log in to Ninja, on usually the first try!! Now that's a plus.

The only change I have to do, is connect to Kinetick first, for the data, & secondly, connect to Zenfire, so my trades are connected to Mirus. That was the only confusing bit to the changeover.

At first I was antsy about having to pay for data, but the reduced stress levels more than compensate.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks pipstalker for the details. That is just horrible. 15-20 minutes behind on data. I wonder if being in Australia had anything to do with it. Or if you don't mind my asking, were you doing really well on trading in the problem free months before the problems stared?

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Hi guys....what is the consensus here....am considering Ninja....which Data feed is the most appropriate for unfiltered tick data. Came across this thread.....would like to get a current perspective.

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Hi guys....what is the consensus here....am considering Ninja....which Data feed is the most appropriate for unfiltered tick data. Came across this thread.....would like to get a current perspective.

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hi
I compared the three unfiltered data provider and how I see the accurate information on the display only 2 of them: iqfeed and rithimic look the same, zenfire shows a discrepancy
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hi again
I present another example in platform a Sierrachart, as you can see, the data is identical, in other words we do not need to use ninjatrader to obtain accurate data, the other platform as sierrachart does everything in the best possible way
Now there is no need to use IQfeed for accurate data, rithmic and zenfire works a good with sierrachart!!!
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Unfortunately all our favorite platform an Ninjatrader does not cope with the task to ensure the accuracy
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