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Zen-Fire vs Trading Technologies vs DTN IQ

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If anyone has an updated opinion on the TT data feed or on Velocity Futures (or another TT broker supporting Ninja) then I'd love to hear about it!

ps: Ninja supporting brokers offering TT are:
  • Advantage Futures
  • AMP Futures
  • Future Path Trading
  • Gateway Capital
  • vCap Trading
  • Velocity Futures

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Hi,

my experience with AdvantageFutures with NT and TT is very good. So I can recommend you AF.
Since TT does not execute orders to EUREX Im using CTS - T4. It is a very stable and fast frontend. You can get a 2 week trial and try it if you want through AF or CTS:
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Price on Zenfire

hi

does anyone know the price per month for data from zenfire? Cound not find anything on website

Exchange: CBOT only


many thanks

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hi

does anyone know the price per month for data from zenfire? Cound not find anything on website

Exchange: CBOT only


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there is no "price" per se... it is an execution feed.. so you just need to be with a broker that offers zenfire..

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my experience with AdvantageFutures with NT and TT is very good. So I can recommend you AF.

Advantage Futures has one of the best TT setups out there...

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hi

does anyone know the price per month for data from zenfire? Cound not find anything on website

Exchange: CBOT only


many thanks

Its best to ask your broker how much you are paying to execute through and receive data from Zenfire since the fees are wrapped up in your commissions. The overall price you pay for Zenfire data will depend on how actively you trade.

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Advantage Futures has one of the best TT setups out there...

So there is a difference between TT data provided by one broker and another? Eg Velocity versus Advantage?

If TT is filtered and ZF is not, what is the real implication to the trader? Obviously 'unfiltered' sounds better/faster but there must be more to it than that ?

Does anyone believe one datafeed is better than the other?

Thanks !

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Does anyone believe one datafeed is better than the other?

Yes of course, not all data feeds are equal - not even close.

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Yes of course, not all data feeds are equal - not even close.

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Could you list your preferences and what criteria you used to decide ?

I use Zenfire because , it is available from the broker and the fee is included with my commission which is fine.

I trade TF discretionary only. One chart, one instrument, one time frame.

Is there any advantage in me using a different data feed?

If I traded 6E or CL would there be a better choice of data feeds?

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For vast majority of people, a feed like Rithmic, Zen Fire, or TT -- all broker provided -- will be just fine, and in fact an excellent feed.

For those requiring special backfill, such as longer historical backfill, or bid/ask backfill, or for those requiring absolute perfection in tick sequencing/ordering, or for those requiring special continuous contract symbols, or for those requiring breadth data, or for those requiring equities quotes, then IQfeed is the way to go.

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Yes of course, not all data feeds are equal - not even close.

Mike

Mike I meant "who thinks ZF is better and who thinks TT is better" ... I was trying to get a feel for if there was marked preference for one or the other.

- My primary question is: "Does "filtering" of TT data slow it down or make it inferior in any way? I'm confused as to why any data feed would filter" ?? I'm considering switching as ZF not reliable for non US users anymore.

- Does the filtering affect tick charts?

- Second, while DTN and Kinetick are supposed to be exactly the same data, I seem to be having more issues with Kinetick than I had with DTN. Is this just me or have others noticed this? (Kinetick is owned by DTN but cheaper for Ninja).

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