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AMP / CQG

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I'm tired, sorry! Typing the extra few characters was simply too much effort. For next time, would you prefer two 'Ha's' or one 'LOL'?

Anyway, now I'm really curious. I may have to call Dan next week to get to the bottom of this. All in spite of that fact that I don't really use the account! I hope that doesn't deter him from answering the questions. I'll make certain not to mention Big Mike .

Haha, I'd prefer you write a full sentence carefully explaining how genius my comedic input really is!

Please give Dan a call, I hate not knowing. I was about to send him an email myself, but a phone call would be better. I am quite self-conscious about my Norwegian accent, however, thus it is not an option for me to call.

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I will call then, it's settled. Let's make a clear list of questions then...

1) Does AMP Trading have its own server(s) for its CQG offering or does it use CQG's existing infrastructure alone?
2) Why does AMP Trading have its own server(s) for its CQG offering as opposed to using CQG's existing infrastructure as most brokerages do that offer CQG Trader?
3) Is there any difference at all in quality (speed or accuracy) of AMP's CQG offering when compared to CQG's?
4) Are there any performance limits placed on AMP's CQG offering compared to CQG's?

Feel free to add to this list or suggest changes to the existing questions, so we might compile a comprehensive set of questions to answer.


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Haha, I'd prefer you write a full sentence carefully explaining how genius my comedic input really is!

Please give Dan a call, I hate not knowing. I was about to send him an email myself, but a phone call would be better. I am quite self-conscious about my Norwegian accent, however, thus it is not an option for me to call.


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We know, we were only kidding around, Mike.


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I will call then, it's settled. Let's make a clear list of questions then...

1) Does AMP Trading have its own server(s) for its CQG offering or does it use CQG's existing infrastructure alone?
2) Why does AMP Trading have its own server(s) for its CQG offering as opposed to using CQG's existing infrastructure as most brokerages do that offer CQG Trader?
3) Is there any difference at all in quality (speed or accuracy) of AMP's CQG offering when compared to CQG's?
4) Are there any performance limits placed on AMP's CQG offering compared to CQG's?

Feel free to add to this list or suggest changes to the existing questions, so we might compile a comprehensive set of questions to answer.

Excellent! It will be good to get to the bottom of this once and for all.

I've seen several complaint of disconnects and other problems with Ninjatrader, but I've yet to experience this on IC or Trader. One must also leave open the possibility of NT being the problem, and not the CQG connection itself.

I think your list is fine, but others might have additional questions. I cannot think of any... But, as it is 4:17AM, I having difficulty thinking at all...

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So it might be useful to list what broker you are using when talking about CQG. CQG thru Amp vs CQG thru Velocity may be different for example, because of the FCM gateway servers. Again, I don't know this for sure, just going based on what users have said in the forum. I think a third option still is those who subscribe to CQG directly from CQG itself, and not through your broker at all.

Mike

Velocity and AMP Futures do not provide the same type or level of access for CQG... AMP is using the API from NT7 ... Velocity is using CQG Trader and Integrated Client to offer access to CQG... one uses the CQG owned Gateways... (Velocity one) and the other uses AMP specific gateways...

at least from the settings that I have seen... anyhow, point is... not the same setup.. or product build per say... cant be compared.

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AMP's CQG connection cannot be NT7 specific as it also drives CQG Trader. So, this issue remains unclear until someone discusses it definitively with Dan.


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Velocity and AMP Futures do not provide the same type or level of access for CQG... AMP is using the API from NT7 ... Velocity is using CQG Trader and Integrated Client to offer access to CQG... one uses the CQG owned Gateways... (Velocity one) and the other uses AMP specific gateways...

at least from the settings that I have seen... anyhow, point is... not the same setup.. or product build per say... cant be compared.


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I will call then, it's settled. Let's make a clear list of questions then...

1) Does AMP Trading have its own server(s) for its CQG offering or does it use CQG's existing infrastructure alone?
2) Why does AMP Trading have its own server(s) for its CQG offering as opposed to using CQG's existing infrastructure as most brokerages do that offer CQG Trader?
3) Is there any difference at all in quality (speed or accuracy) of AMP's CQG offering when compared to CQG's?
4) Are there any performance limits placed on AMP's CQG offering compared to CQG's?

Feel free to add to this list or suggest changes to the existing questions, so we might compile a comprehensive set of questions to answer.

I might suggest a small change, since I am curious as well and CQG/AMP havent provided a clear answer..

1) Does AMP Trading have its own co-located server(s) @ CQG Data Centers for its offering or does it use CQG's existing infrastructure for its client to access from NinjaTrader? basically who owns and manages the gateway servers and where are they located.

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I will include that, thanks.


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I might suggest a small change, since I am curious as well and CQG/AMP havent provided a clear answer..

1) Does AMP Trading have its own co-located server(s) @ CQG Data Centers for its offering or does it use CQG's existing infrastructure for its client to access from NinjaTrader? basically who owns and manages the gateway servers and where are they located.


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AMP's CQG connection cannot be NT7 specific as it also drives CQG Trader. So, this issue remains unclear until someone discusses it definitively with Dan.

not arguing that point, only arguing that AMP/Velocity are not the same offering... if you try to access a Velocity Setup of CQG Trader via NT7, it wont work.. period.. that is what I am referring to..more than likely CAST has an API setting that needs to be enabled for that to happen, and I would venture to say that AMP is the exclusive user for now..

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With any luck we'll all be a lot clearer on these questions early next week. Here's to a better understanding of CQG's relationships....


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not arguing that point, only arguing that AMP/Velocity are not the same offering... if you try to access a Velocity Setup of CQG Trader via NT7, it wont work.. period.. that is what I am referring to..more than likely CAST has an API setting that needs to be enabled for that to happen, and I would venture to say that AMP is the exclusive user for now..


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