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Update: Latency

I have been running ping tests to 64.202.118.5 which from what I understand is a close as you can get to zenfire servers that allow a ping. I don't think this their actual order server.

I am getting sub 1ms ping which is fantastic. Windows only measures in 1ms increments so don't know how far below 1ms. It is so low I wonder if those servers are not in same building. That is what you call blazing fast.

Thanks Liquidcci for this important information. Below 1ms is indeed blazing fast, I'm getting an average of 111ms with 20 pings to this address (The Netherlands is located 6700km, or 4100 miles, from Chicago).

You mention an 'zenfire order server'. I was in the understanding that ZenFire is only datafeed, and that you use the servers of your ZenFire broker for order execution. It seems somewhat excessive as an European to send my order in European futures first to the ZenFire Chicago server, which in turns sends it to the European exchanges.

Perhaps I'm going somewhat off-topic here, but has ZenFire one dataserver, or also European servers for their European customers?

I'm wondering what's your average fill time (time between signal generation in NinjaTrader and the order getting filled). Does NinjaTrader provide some information about that?

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Update: Latency

I have been running ping tests to 64.202.118.5 which from what I understand is a close as you can get to zenfire servers that allow a ping. I don't think this their actual order server.

I am getting sub 1ms ping which is fantastic. Windows only measures in 1ms increments so don't know how far below 1ms. It is so low I wonder if those servers are not in same building. That is what you call blazing fast.

Does anyone know IP to ping rithmic order servers or at least close as possible?

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Can you try a tracert, to find who many hops you'll have to this IP ?
I've got 4 routers from my VPS's to this IP, and a sub ms ping too, and I'm curious to see how many hops you'll have.

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Thanks Liquidcci for this important information. Below 1ms is indeed blazing fast, I'm getting an average of 111ms with 20 pings to this address (The Netherlands is located 6700km, or 4100 miles, from Chicago).

You mention an 'zenfire order server'. I was in the understanding that ZenFire is only datafeed, and that you use the servers of your ZenFire broker for order execution. It seems somewhat excessive as an European to send my order in European futures first to the ZenFire Chicago server, which in turns sends it to the European exchanges.

Perhaps I'm going somewhat off-topic here, but has ZenFire one dataserver, or also European servers for their European customers?

I'm wondering what's your average fill time (time between signal generation in NinjaTrader and the order getting filled). Does NinjaTrader provide some information about that?

Regards,

"You mention an 'zenfire order server'. I was in the understanding that ZenFire is only datafeed, and that you use the servers of your ZenFire broker for order execution?"

I believe the zenfire servers actually route your orders so "order server" may not be the correct terminology but indicates zenfire is more than just a data feed. I don't know exactly how orders interact with broker. I think they may go through clearing firm or at least get some kind of clearance to make sure make sure you have funds to place order. That being said I am no expert and am not sure exactly how that side of things works but someone here may can answer that question. I actually use a rithmic feed which is the feed zenfire is based on.

Perhaps I'm going somewhat off-topic here, but has ZenFire one dataserver, or also European servers for their European customers?

I don't know the answer to this but even if they did if you were trading an instrument that orders had to come through U.S. exchange servers would still slow you down. If you want speed only way to overcome it is close the distance by getting on a server close to the exchanges.

I'm wondering what's your average fill time (time between signal generation in NinjaTrader and the order getting filled). Does NinjaTrader provide some information about that?

This I don't know and am not sure if can be measured.

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Can you try a tracert, to find who many hops you'll have to this IP ?
I've got 4 routers from my VPS's to this IP, and a sub ms ping too, and I'm curious to see how many hops you'll have.

Hey Sam it is 6 hops to that ip for me. 3 of the hops are on Steadfast Networks which is hosting my server. These sub ms times make me think that ip is located in same building as my server and yours as well.

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...My experience ... deploying my NT setup on the machine took maybe 90 minutes or so. So was easy and smooth. ...

Sir, your post was a godsend for me. I've been googling info on this for 3ish weeks and came to this forum last week based on past posts on this topic (that are more informative than NT's support forum!!!). I'm a newly profitable forex trader, new-ish to NT and its power-uses (like operations on a dedicated server) but soberly eager.

I am dying to know:

1. general outline of above quote would be greatly appreciated!
2. did you upload your NT and dataprovider folders to similarly named directories as if it were the same machine?
3. any issues come up? if any, how solved?
4. :-) how many "thanks" do you want for this?

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Sir, your post was a godsend for me. I've been googling info on this for 3ish weeks and came to this forum last week based on past posts on this topic (that are more informative than NT's support forum!!!). I'm a newly profitable forex trader, new-ish to NT and its power-uses (like operations on a dedicated server) but soberly eager.

I am dying to know:

1. general outline of above quote would be greatly appreciated!
2. did you upload your NT and dataprovider folders to similarly named directories as if it were the same machine?
3. any issues come up? if any, how solved?
4. :-) how many "thanks" do you want for this?

Sincerely,
Viraj in Canada

Glad could be helpful. I had alot experience with server 2003 so probably faster for me to setup than someone with no experience. Although if you have a grasp on windows it is fairly straight forward. Once you sign up with a host they are going to send you info to RDP into your server. You login and I would suggest doing a fresh install of NT. You may can restore from a backup on your machine but I find that often does not work to well with NT. So just installed and imported my indicators strategys etc. Really no harder than setting up NT on your own computer. Most of the 90 minutes it took me was waiting for my login info

One tip is on your home machine download the NT install package then drag it onto your server desktop (or copy and paste if wont let you drag). You can download directly onto your server through a web browser but have to turn off alot of windows 2008 security features.

You can also just leave NT on your home machine for a backup and backtesting although same license can't be open on both machines at same time.

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Did you mention what broker you are using?

This is an intriguing solution. However, i use Interactive Brokers and I wonder if their security mechanism which requires you to input additional codes that change every time you log on would be a problem?

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Did you mention what broker you are using?

This is an intriguing solution. However, i use Interactive Brokers and I wonder if their security mechanism which requires you to input additional codes that change every time you log on would be a problem?

I use optimus with a rithmic feed.

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Thanks for the reply.

What did you use to code your strategy? NinjaScript? R-API? I'm a little confused how it's all integrated.

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Thanks for the reply.

What did you use to code your strategy? NinjaScript? R-API? I'm a little confused how it's all integrated.

My strategies are coded in Ninjascript. Only thing I run on my server is NT7.

I have access to r trader on another computer. But only use it for a backup to exit trades if NT went down while I was in a trade. I

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