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Should I lower contract size for a wider stop loss?

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Ive been practicing scalping on ninja trader for a couple of months now and one of the biggest issues I've had is my stop getting hit extremely early and then the market moving in the direction that I had expected/planned for it to.

Ive seen some things about people making their stop loss, 1:3 or 1:4 and I'm assuming they are basing it off of their profit factor.

Would it be a good idea, to lower contract size and instead widen my stop loss for a margin of error at my entries?

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Only have been trading for about 5 months now any and all information is welcomed. Also my first post here.

Quick answer is "yes". This is always a great idea and normally the wisest decision.

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Ive been practicing scalping on ninja trader for a couple of months now and one of the biggest issues I've had is my stop getting hit extremely early and then the market moving in the direction that I had expected/planned for it to.

Ive seen some things about people making their stop loss, 1:3 or 1:4 and I'm assuming they are basing it off of their profit factor.

Would it be a good idea, to lower contract size and instead widen my stop loss for a margin of error at my entries?

Side note:
Only have been trading for about 5 months now any and all information is welcomed. Also my first post here.

The way you should look at this is if you ALREADY have an EDGE is to deifine your "R" (Risk) for the trade by taking your entry minus your stoploss in ticks-size-dollars divided by a percentage of you account.

(I would never suggest going above %1 risk on account but with $2000 I might go as high as %2 if I was really confident)

Example. You have a $2000 account. Your stoploss is 8 ticks away. Each tick is $1.25 (micro ES in this example).

So your "R" (risk unit) on this trade is $40 and 8 ticks.

($2000 X %2 = $40) ÷ (8 ticks X $1.25 = $10) = 4 contracts.

Now you take that 4 contract loss at 8 ticks for a $40 loss or you take profits at one "R" at $40 or two "R" lets say at $80.

Your objective is to make sure you are always looking to take more than one "R" in profits but NEVER take more than a one "R" loss.

Just insert the risk management framework into your already profitable system.

If your system isn't profitable to begin with NO amount of money management will help. It might help slow the bleeding but the eventuality is the same.

Hope this helps.

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