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With all do respect @bobwest, this was all clarified after the fact. @kevinkdog had no contributions to the thread. Only private emails to other members.

What about a warning to @kevindkdog for the name calling. Or is this allowed by some?

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It is allowed for no one. I believe Kevin is deleting his posts, and I am glad to see it. Everyone should cool down.

I had not read @goodoboy's explanation of what went on until I had almost finished my post, which took me some time to say what I wanted to say, the way I wanted to say it. When I read his post, I included what he said into mine.

When you say someone is lurking in wait to take advantage of someone, and is covering their tracks, that is on the face of it an accusation of wrongdoing that needs some serious evidence, or it is on the face of it rude. I deleted the post based on the violation of policy, and it was enough, without @goodoboy's clarifying remarks. If I had been faster on the draw, I would have deleted it before he said anything.

If you want to say someone is up to no good, you will need to show some evidence and keep things on a professional level in any case.

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Let me say that I have enjoyed and benefited from other posts by both you and Kevin in the past. In no sense is anything I wrote meant to be unfair to either.

But it's my job to keep things on an even keel if I can, and that's what I believe I am doing now. The mods spend a lot of effort trying to be even-handed. I hope I have been.... but I have to call them as I see them, too.

I'm sure we can keep cool and go on with things without anything becoming more personal than it needs to be, from any side.

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To be exact this is @kevinkdog 's post.

"Yes, when trolls accuse me of lurking in the background, PMing traders to earn trust and covering my tracks - *ALL with no proof, mind you*, I take it personal.

Go troll elsewhere."

Not very classy from a Vendor if you ask me? JMHO

For the record for future readers.

I was posting and he was not. He sent private emails to a futures.io member.

And, let me say, let us just drop all this, shall we?

We all have better things to do than keep making points. It's all been said.

He's deleted his posts, and we can let it end now.

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OK, here is one, not my fav, but very tradable with 19 year out of sample track record. I developed this in 2012, and have been trading it live since about 2014.

By itself, it will not make you rich (notice the flat period from 2016-9), but it still performs well.



@kevinkdog I hope this is behind us.

Thank you for posting. Are you willing to say more info of your strategy (mean reversion, Trend, frequency of trades, MAE per trade, type of capital that may be needed, etc).

This may help other traders see what is possible.

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And, let me say, let us just drop all this, shall we?

We all have better things to do than keep making points. It's all been said.

He's deleted his posts, and we can let it end now.

Bob.

Yes, Sorry and fully agree.

Thanks for what you do...We need this at times.

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OK, here is one, not my fav, but very tradable with 19 year out of sample track record. I developed this in 2012, and have been trading it live since about 2014.

By itself, it will not make you rich (notice the flat period from 2016-9), but it still performs well.



Hello Kevin,

Thank you for posting and inspiring me. Great curve and great direction you provided me.

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It is allowed for no one. I believe Kevin is deleting his posts, and I am glad to see it. Everyone should cool down.

I had not read @goodoboy's explanation of what went on until I had almost finished my post, which took me some time to say what I wanted to say, the way I wanted to say it. When I read his post, I included what he said into mine.

When you say someone is lurking in wait to take advantage of someone, and is covering their tracks, that is on the face of it an accusation of wrongdoing that needs some serious evidence, or it is on the face of it rude. I deleted the post based on the violation of policy, and it was enough, without @goodoboy's clarifying remarks. If I had been faster on the draw, I would have deleted it before he said anything.

If you want to say someone is up to no good, you will need to show some evidence and keep things on a professional level in any case.

-------------------

Let me say that I have enjoyed and benefited from other posts by both you and Kevin in the past. In no sense is anything I wrote meant to be unfair to either.

But it's my job to keep things on an even keel if I can, and that's what I believe I am doing now. The mods spend a lot of effort trying to be even-handed. I hope I have been.... but I have to call them as I see them, too.

I'm sure we can keep cool and go on with things without anything becoming more personal than it needs to be, from any side.

Bob.

Thank you Bob for the settlement.

We are all friends. Thank you Kevin and Woody.

I will keep everyone updated on my direction I will be going shortly. I have some good direction now and I feel happy about it.

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It is time to say

Goodbye to "good boy" now. Don't feed the trolls!


No need for most rude comments (in red and 72 points) in a thread of a so called trader who asks to discuss his problems here and and is not capable to discuss trading opinions. Plus answers such as "stop all this talking man, post your broker statement so I see your discretionary trading works".

Enough is enough!

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@bobwest - please check for closing this thread. It is one that does not reach the minimum standard set for fio. Thanks!

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It is time to say

Goodbye to "good boy" now. Don't feed the trolls!


No need for most rude comments (in red and 72 points) in a thread of a so called trader who asks to discuss his problems here and and is not capable to discuss trading opinions. Plus answers such as "stop all this talking man, post your broker statement so I see your discretionary trading works".

Enough is enough!

GFIs1

@bobwest - please check for closing this thread. It is one that does not reach the minimum standard set for fio. Thanks!

Let's please have no more controversy or back and forth comments in this thread, by anyone, on any subject.

I do understand that there were some things said and written by different people that rubbed others the wrong way. I am asking everyone to simply ignore any perceived or actual offense and simply move on.

I think that it is very important to realize that things communicated in writing, over the internet, and with a strong emphasis can be offensive to others. Sometimes the offense is deliberate, sometimes it may not be, sometimes something was just communicated in a way that came across too strongly. I am not saying that there is no reason to take them that way, but I am saying that a huge amount of words have now been expended in this thread by members who have felt they had reason to complain.

Let us just drop it all and go back to being courteous and understanding with each other.

This entire business has taken up entirely too much time from all of us, who probably have other things to do.

So, I am not minimizing your views, nor anyone else's, but I am suggesting we have peace here and let all these matters rest.

Thanks. We need peace now.

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PS, for everyone: no one is going to post statements, and no one has to. It would be great to know whether someone actually is trading with a profit, and if someone wants to post his statements, that is fine, but very rare.

I know Kevin has made results available at different times, and I remember years ago when Mike did. And it is acceptable to draw any conclusions anyone likes when the statements are not provided. But members on FIO are not vendors pitching for anyone's business (if we find they are, we ban them), and if a non-vendor wants to keep their financial business private, that is something they have a perfect right to do.

Frankly, I don't think vendors are going to publish their results either, but that's a different situation.

I just wanted to add this little note about what can be expected of others.

Now, I hope the temperature can come down a little and we can all get along.

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OK, here is one, not my fav, but very tradable with 19 year out of sample track record. I developed this in 2012, and have been trading it live since about 2014.

By itself, it will not make you rich (notice the flat period from 2016-9), but it still performs well.



Once again, thank you kevinkdog for posting this wonderful curve.

This is how it is done everyone, if you want to help the traders, you have to show the proof of live trades and equity curve first, then let the trader work extremely hard to find their own edge(s). You can not give advice and be unprofitable yourself.

Thanks for all your kind help kevindog and I am definitely reading your book as we discussed. I was an idot for not reading 4 years ago, but I did not know any better and thought I can do it alone, listening to my unprofitable trading friends. WRONG. I need edges to trade. Now I only listen to people like Kevin, Jim Simon, and any other profitable traders. So far, I only see algo traders have the edge. I do not see discretionary traders showing any thing, just lots of talking and posting ideas. I only listen to algo traders now.

Thank you everyone.

I hope one day, I can get profitable and stay profitable, so I can help other traders. I want dare help traders now cause I make no money.

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