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Too many changes...

Hi all,
How many of you have fallen for the "too many changes" trap? You've developed your own plan, and probably tested it in simulation, and it looks OK. However, when you enter the real world (live trading) you take a few hits. Immediately you start looking at your indicators. Maybe you change a few parameters, or even try new indicators and within a short space of time your trading account doesn't look as healthy.

Time to regroup. Perhaps the original plan wasn't so bad after all. Did you follow your plan explicitly? Time to be honest here - we've all had bad fills, slippage, missed entries and exits, etc, etc and any number of things we can blame the market for.

Rather than blame things for your trading performance, what about having Patience, Trust and Confidence in what you are doing. Change one parameter or indicator at a time and retest it. Remember though, most indicators and parameters will work at some time. If you change too many you will only end up confused.

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Hi all,
How many of you have fallen for the "too many changes" trap? You've developed your own plan, and probably tested it in simulation, and it looks OK. However, when you enter the real world (live trading) you take a few hits. Immediately you start looking at your indicators. Maybe you change a few parameters, or even try new indicators and within a short space of time your trading account doesn't look as healthy.

Time to regroup. Perhaps the original plan wasn't so bad after all. Did you follow your plan explicitly? Time to be honest here - we've all had bad fills, slippage, missed entries and exits, etc, etc and any number of things we can blame the market for.

Rather than blame things for your trading performance, what about having Patience, Trust and Confidence in what you are doing. Change one parameter or indicator at a time and retest it. Remember though, most indicators and parameters will work at some time. If you change too many you will only end up confused.

Meggs

Meggs

This is so true and I suspect all traders experience it. I constantly keep trying to improve my system, especially after having it smacked around by the market, but almost invariably I find the original works fine as long as I follow my rules. I guess it is natural for us to strive to build something better (better cars, better computers etc) which requires us to break or at least challenge the rules. In trading the hardest thing to do is follow your own rules - perhaps we need to be more like Mr Data in Star Trek who could turn off his emotion chip.

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Boy, I couldn't agree more. The funny part of the whole scenario is you know that doing this is going to get you confused and yet you still do it. Always trying to find the perfect setup,or indicator, which just doesn't exist.

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Guys,

How about learning how to master one's emotions instead of forcing yourself to turn them off?

By the way, that's kind of impossible, turning them off. What we need to learn is why we react the way we're reacting.
The key is to master yourself not your emotions!

/George

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Meggs well said it is my thinking that a lot of traders fall into this pit of changing things after they take a loss. they go to look for a new indicator that protects them and they add more and more or change settings over and over.

the truth is you cannot win every trade. you probably can not win most trades. realistically you can probably win half of trades. and of those half the way to make money is by making sure your profits are bigger than your losses.

"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain

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i think thats bull if your not even winning half your trades you should go find a new job and forget about trading...sharky

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The funny this is there is nothing you can do or change to make a trade a winner. Forget about tweaking your indicators or system or the rat will beat you.

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