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Hmm, let's try to think out of the box....
how do you guys write the notes for each trade? Piece of paper or some text editor, Evernote or directly into the journal?

What about an easy form, that will offer the text box, instrument drop down and will allow to make notes?
The notes would be stored in an local db and then could be merged with "technical" data from the trading platform - like the csv we are parsing from NT...

Since the trades will be in the database together with the notes, we could then just generate the excel in order to perform the statistics.


Since such tool would be also something I need for my trading - I could perhaps create something if there is time (I am lazy and I try to make the computer do the things for me if it is tedious task).

I can probably draw some screen mockups.

How does that sound?

Sounds very interesting for sure.

Personally I write my notes directly into the journal, only in rare cases like fiddling around with new journal versions and thus having my version closed I might use pen and paper.
But what I rather often do is only entering notes, setup and grades during trading and filling in all the rest as soon as I feel I have the time or after trading.

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Hmm, let's try to think out of the box....
how do you guys write the notes for each trade? Piece of paper or some text editor, Evernote or directly into the journal?

What about an easy form, that will offer the text box, instrument drop down and will allow to make notes?
The notes would be stored in an local db and then could be merged with "technical" data from the trading platform - like the csv we are parsing from NT...

Since the trades will be in the database together with the notes, we could then just generate the excel in order to perform the statistics.


Since such tool would be also something I need for my trading - I could perhaps create something if there is time (I am lazy and I try to make the computer do the things for me if it is tedious task).

I can probably draw some screen mockups.

How does that sound?

i had kinda thought about something like this awhile ago for making it easier going from version to version..

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Here is a new beta.
As to migrating, I have changed some formatting on the journal tab, so make sure4 you paste with the option "match destination formatting".
I think I found the things that @ petrmac pointed out: drawdown is fixed now and with the journal tab I cleared a bunch of obsolete formatting rules.
Hope the formatting issues are fixed now...

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Here is a new beta.
As to migrating, I have changed some formatting on the journal tab, so make sure4 you paste with the option "match destination formatting".
I think I found the things that @ petrmac pointed out: drawdown is fixed now and with the journal tab I cleared a bunch of obsolete formatting rules.
Hope the formatting issues are fixed now...

vvhg

will pasting values only work too..?

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will pasting values only work too..?

No, as you paste formulas as well, pasting values kills them and turns them into............yep, values!

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i wont do the quotes on this one since we have had a few notes about it, but why dont we just use the NT database that already exists and pull the trades from there to the journal?

i will wait for the new importer to resume testing with the newest journal(beta11).. this will also give me time to catch up on interweb stuffs that ive missed the last 3 business days..

@petrmac, ok i was using automated for the import.. so discretionary is for sim and live trading both? i guess that makes sense..

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i wont do the quotes on this one since we have had a few notes about it, but why dont we just use the NT database that already exists and pull the trades from there to the journal?

i will wait for the new importer to resume testing with the newest journal(beta11).. this will also give me time to catch up on interweb stuffs that ive missed the last 3 business days..

@petrmac, ok i was using automated for the import.. so discretionary is for sim and live trading both? i guess that makes sense..


The NT database is one option. It is probably somehow locked... I don't know if I'll be able to get to it.
What makes me think about using own db is the possibility to allow for import from other platforms other might be using (MultiCharts??)


Automated/ Discretionary - yes that was meant so. Automated is from the strategy.

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The NT database is one option. It is probably somehow locked... I don't know if I'll be able to get to it.
What makes me think about using own db is the possibility to allow for import from other platforms other might be using (MultiCharts??)


Automated/ Discretionary - yes that was meant so. Automated is from the strategy.

I really like your ideas!
As to entering notes into the database, what was your idea how to do it best?

The other thing I was thinking about is that we might lose quite a bit of control over the process, which is a good thing as long as everything works, but might be a big problem if there is a giltch somewhere like misgrouping of trades as I would not have the possibility to correct things easily with a fey minutes of entering the problematic trades manually and then correcting the scope of the csv and import the rest easily.

But I like the multi platform idea a lot, so my first question would be if other platforms can export csv or excel reports similar to NT?

Because if they do it might be an option to give the importer a set of "maps" for the different csv types, so that it can parse these?

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Two things I thought of implementing in the journal:

Add a line between days on journal tab (via conditional formatting).
Improve the calculations for stop efficiency.

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Here is my idea how the trade log entry could look like. What do you think?
Then there will be some other screens needed (like verification / matching of the imported trades with the journal logs) - have no idea how should it look like now...

Feel free to comment, suggest new ideas.

Trade log entry screen:

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