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Practical Spiritual Trading
FIO just had a webinar on this subject (near and dear to my heart) and now seems the perfect time to begin this thread. Thank you @Big Mike and Super Moderators...yet again. Find it here.....
This thread, in my view and if all goes as planned, can become the cornerstone of your trading. Your best Edge,
Something that might spill over to the rest of your life.
As the saying goes.....
paraphrasing/quoting FT71 who's quoting a big time floor trader in a webinar some years ago
I don't expect this thread to be the most popular or for everyone by any means. What is, in this sphere? I can pretty much guarantee this much....lol. Also "No Hurry" will most probably be the feel or tone, I'm betting.
Thread definition:
Practical: can be put into practice, actionable, not some pie in the sky mumbo jumbo that's hard to swallow or has the fragrance of holier than thou.
Spiritual: in as much as the characteristics and attributes of the spirit (huh? did he just start with mumbo jumbo, he just said he wouldn't ..lol... that good ole talking in a circle....lol).
Trading: Profitable/successful market speculation/hedging consistently over time.
More later.....
Ron
...My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy...
The steed of this Valley is pain; and if there be no pain this journey will never end.
Buy Low And Sell High (read left to right or right to left....lol)
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A quick post here before going down for the count (bed) to state, in my view, what this thread is not about.
Just to be clear…this is:
Not about some sort of ESP or Extra Sensory Perception.
Not about “tuning” into the market somehow and getting glimpses or flashes of the future you are then able to act on.
Not about ghosts.
Not about talking to spirits.
Not about a Ouija board.
Not about a séance.
Not about magic.
Not about witchcraft.
Not about black magic.
Not about any particular religion.
Ron
...My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy...
The steed of this Valley is pain; and if there be no pain this journey will never end.
Buy Low And Sell High (read left to right or right to left....lol)
The attached picture shows a u-tube Ted Talk that discussed the Remote Viewing project done by the CIA in the 1980's. At this point in the video he told us that the group had looked into the future to see what silver futures were going to do and they placed some trades. The picture shows the successful results. Here is the link to the video ...
When everyone is talking about AI and Algorithmic Trading being the new frontier, I disagree. Humans have
skills that computers do not. We can connect to the Universal Consciousness and see into the future. Spiritual Trading, I think, is the new frontier in trading. But then, I'm just a Duck and I eat slugs. Quack!
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In my view, to begin, there must be a foundation we can build upon. Some framework we can hang concepts on. If this topic is Practical Spiritual Trading, it’s the middle word here we need to focus on. The other two we all get.
As stated previously Spiritual relates to the Spirit. Great. What does that mean? We have probably all heard something like this before, “She was in good spirits today after her appointment.” meaning she felt happy, joyous or effervescent. “The children were in high spirits after hearing the news about the class trip from the principal.” These give us some clue that spirit somehow relates to intangibles.
It is said and I agree…. You are a spiritual being having a human experience.
In the womb we are all developing the tools we need for when we leave the womb. Eyes, lungs, legs etc. It turns out eyes are completely useless in a dark environment. The establishment of eyes is not for the womb. Same ideas apply to the lungs for example. They don’t work in a fluid filled environment. A great deal of energy is used growing limbs and organs. Just not for use in that tiny place. Only once we enter this great big world do these tools slowly reach their potential.
We can’t explain to the growing fetus how amazing, useful and important eyes will be once they start life in this plane of existence. Microscope. Telescope. Sunsets etc. There is just no capacity, yet, to comprehend this.
If for some reason a limb or organ did not develop adequately in the womb, once out, unfortunately a handicap is realized. My daughter is an example of this with a conditioned call arthrogryposis amyoplasia.
Body is to soul as lamp is to light. Body is to mind as tree is to fruit. Body is to rational soul as flame is to heat/light. Body is to mind as water flour salt is to bread. (sorry, I think I'm hungry lol) The soul a sun illuminating the body. The body a mirror reflecting the soul’s light and mental powers as rays shining out from its origin. The soul, mind or rational soul.
In my view, we have three very distinct parts to what comprises oneself. Body. Soul. Spirit. The soul, if you will, connects the body to the spirit. Like a bridge a path or link. Or maybe I should say, can, connect the two. The spirit being nonmaterial nonphysical and not something we can comprehend, yet.
All I’m able to know is I must develop spiritual limbs and organs in a parallel to the fetus growing in the womb and I can’t comprehend this, yet.
More later (it's late, I’m sleepy …lol)
Ron
...My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy...
The steed of this Valley is pain; and if there be no pain this journey will never end.
Buy Low And Sell High (read left to right or right to left....lol)
I agree with you, not in these exacts words, maybe as physical bodies we are not capable of having all 360 view. But I do believe that for being good at anything, one needs a happy spirit, spirit here may not refer to soul but the state of mind.
You see, during my business masters one of the topics often discussed was entrepreneurship, its not just about having novel idea but its lot about you following your "spirit vision". In reality you know nothing of future but you still choose the path that you do. Most time it may not work out, but sometimes it does, here its just not about innovation or even having the vision its also about timing. Making it very apt topic to discuss in background of trading.
For me trading is of similar dynamics, you can be smartest person on this planet but if your spirit doesn't agree with you trading you wont make it. Trading is lot about being happy from within, that is also key to controlling your emotions like greed and fear. Outsiders may think you are working towards illusory goal but in reality in your head/spirit view you are very clear on what you are doing. Of course, triumph only comes to very few and many fail, and reasons can be kept aside for later analysis.
So to finish my mumble jumble here, spirit or state of mind is what we are really trying to address by discussing very complicated topic called "psychology", right now approach of psychology is finite, its designed to find answers in your past to decipher your actions today but in reality there is very large part of you that has nothing to do with your past, it has lot to do with your future or maybe core of your DNA memory (360 degrees), just like fetus in womb trying to develop limbs.
Okay, I'm getting little out of control and I might have offended lot of psychology majors, but its really not about that, remember what I said? As a physical bodies we are not always having the 360 view of the things. I've no clue if we will ever change, but if there was ever anyone deserving of title "enlightened being", would you not say its to the one who has this 360 degree vision? A happy spirit? A chaser of dreams or that illusory target?
/I think my brain is rebelling on me there and I should keep alcohol down on Friday evening if I plan to come on forum
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I'm glad you decided to participate in the discussion even though, as your title reads
Sounds like you took a chance, a risk typing this, and I think there are some real nuggets here for us.
I like your 360-degree view reference. To me it speaks of us trying to remove or fight through the veils, clouds, blocks or prejudices we all have that limit ourselves, our perceptions. I would say and agree with you that someone who has a 360° view of things, meaning to me, someone free of all prejudices and able to see all things clearly that yes, they would be an enlightened being.
I think in trading it's important to be able to open yourself up to possibilities new ways to perceive the market data/info coming at us all the time. Filtering it as well. Like your 360-degree view. I think it's a journey not a destination. And yeah we don't know the future. Everything is probable to some degree.
Happiness, I would say, is definitely something closely linked to trading. If you aren't in a good way chances are your trading will be in the toilet.
Having a Happy spirit, as you mentioned, will appear again in this thread.
Ron
...My calamity is My providence, outwardly it is fire and vengeance, but inwardly it is light and mercy...
The steed of this Valley is pain; and if there be no pain this journey will never end.
Buy Low And Sell High (read left to right or right to left....lol)
…lol)
