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I'm glad you decided to participate in the discussion even though, as your title reads

Sounds like you took a chance, a risk typing this, and I think there are some real nuggets here for us.

Haha, please forgive me if it came across like that, it was more so in my head and it sounded lot like me going crazy. I was also inebriated, I even spelled "grammar" wrong in my correction note of the post, so I urge you to not read too much into it.


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I'm glad you decided to participate in the discussion even though, as your title reads
I like your 360-degree view reference. To me it speaks of us trying to remove or fight through the veils, clouds, blocks or prejudices we all have that limit ourselves, our perceptions. I would say and agree with you that someone who has a 360į view of things, meaning to me, someone free of all prejudices and able to see all things clearly that yes, they would be an enlightened being.

Couldn't have put it in better words myself, you explained it right there. What enabled humans to survive till the time we do is not because we were better savages or very able hunters, its because we had greater spiritual abilities which told our ancestors to survive by cooperating. Its not that other lifeforms can't do it, take dolphins for example, elephants, chimps and even birds who are by birth aware of migration path which they have to take every year, even the salmon fish that travel upstream across rivers in time of fertility, fatal but they still do it.

Its that DNA memory, a spiritual mind in a sense that is like constant working computer that enables us to better survive by running millions of algorithms in its own capacity till there is success. We are all by design made to success by this spiritual computer. Of course, some algos go out of fashion over period of time, or there are now just better designs out there with higher success rate. Or you can also attribute it to nature having spiritual computer of its own, running its course of constantly eliminating what is not working and keeping what is working, we call it evolution and extinction science. Non scientific ppl call it magic of god, but at the heart of it, if you consider it with more 360 view and look at it from more neutral point, its just large spiritual body, guiding entire physical world to its goal of succeeding survival.


Doesn't always happen, but then again, not all algos work and sometimes physical body also rebels. Which is again within spirits expectation and its way of gathering more data on the ongoing research and experiments for future experiment. Its a constant process, till its not. Its a cycle of Birth-Life-Death-Rebirth, a more improved version this time.


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I think in trading it's important to be able to open yourself up to possibilities new ways to perceive the market data/info coming at us all the time. Filtering it as well. Like your 360-degree view. I think it's a journey not a destination. And yeah we don't know the future. Everything is probable to some degree.

Yes, exactly, if you were not able to enjoy the journey itself, its indication of being on wrong path and being unhappy is one of the side effects of it

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Hello, long time lurker and first time poster!

Figured I would weigh in on this topic. Apologies in advance if I am repeating what was on the webinar, as I haven't upgraded to elite yet, but I wanted to share some things that I have been doing throughout my trading career in hopes of contributing to this discussion that have been both helpful in daily life outside of trading and immensely helpful in becoming profitable.

For me, the spiritual side of trading involves visualization and meditation. Not necessarily to connect with a higher spiritual self or the like, but you find in all professional areas of sport or upper business that these successful people either knowingly or unknowingly connect with their universal consciousness to bring about their desired outcome in life. Either a basketball player training to visualize every shot going into the basket as they take it or a would-be CEO envisioning themselves at the top, both practice the same techniques although in vastly different professions. Thoughts are energy, every result is at the end of where that energy has been going for some time.

Meditation on the other hand draws the emotion out of the mind, making it easier to make decisions and think clear, and also to dive into ourselves to analyze our subconscious thoughts. It's crucial especially in a beginners career to identify the mind throwing out negative thoughts such as "I can't do this" or "I don't deserve to make this much money" or even emotions such as greed or lust for what a profitable career can bring. The subconscious can bring about fame or ruin just as easily as the other. Letting go of the ego was easily one of the most important parts of my career.

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Hello, long time lurker and first time poster!

Figured I would weigh in on this topic. Apologies in advance if I am repeating what was on the webinar, as I haven't upgraded to elite yet, but I wanted to share some things that I have been doing throughout my trading career in hopes of contributing to this discussion that have been both helpful in daily life outside of trading and immensely helpful in becoming profitable.

For me, the spiritual side of trading involves visualization and meditation. Not necessarily to connect with a higher spiritual self or the like, but you find in all professional areas of sport or upper business that these successful people either knowingly or unknowingly connect with their universal consciousness to bring about their desired outcome in life. Either a basketball player training to visualize every shot going into the basket as they take it or a would-be CEO envisioning themselves at the top, both practice the same techniques although in vastly different professions. Thoughts are energy, every result is at the end of where that energy has been going for some time.

Meditation on the other hand draws the emotion out of the mind, making it easier to make decisions and think clear, and also to dive into ourselves to analyze our subconscious thoughts. It's crucial especially in a beginners career to identify the mind throwing out negative thoughts such as "I can't do this" or "I don't deserve to make this much money" or even emotions such as greed or lust for what a profitable career can bring. The subconscious can bring about fame or ruin just as easily as the other. Letting go of the ego was easily one of the most important parts of my career.

Glab to see you started posting here at FIO. Don't ever stop. Thanks for contributing.

That's all I have time for, for now. Sorry.

More later.

Ron

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Just a quick observation... since starting my personal trading journey, I've noticed that I am much more in tune with my spirituality, in both trading and life.

It might have something to do with the fact that I'm getting ready to turn 50 as well but... like I said, a quick observation

Great topic. Looking forward to chiming in when I have something to offer

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Just a quick observation... since starting my personal trading journey, I've noticed that I am much more in tune with my spirituality, in both trading and life.



It might have something to do with the fact that I'm getting ready to turn 50 as well but... like I said, a quick observation



Great topic. Looking forward to chiming in when I have something to offer



Iím looking forward to your posts as well bro.

As soon as I get this project done, remaking my under deck storage doors to a wider opening. 80 inches from 60.

I will be post more.

I had 57.5 inch clearance with 60 so I will probably have 2.5 inches less with 80 as well. Hustler ZTR with the catcher canít make in those old doors. Made one door today and currently standing in Menards to buy quarter round trim to finish off the doors.

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I love projects like that Got plenty of them to do around here, but no time at the moment. Saw you recently upgraded your toy, glad you are enjoying it, hope you're ready for winter!

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Just a quick observation... since starting my personal trading journey, I've noticed that I am much more in tune with my spirituality, in both trading and life.

It might have something to do with the fact that I'm getting ready to turn 50 as well but... like I said, a quick observation

Great topic. Looking forward to chiming in when I have something to offer

Same, trading or trading like activity can do that to ppl, it gives you up close encounter with lot of things you otherwise won't have, its like going to war, a financial one. At first you are enthusiastic, you think you will the bomb and best gift to humanity from god, but then market puts you in your place. In most cruel ways, its quite unraveling tbh. Trading can also give rise to your need to have other hobbies/stress relief activities. Meditation certainly helps, for me trekking or going on long walks.

Everyone finds their way to spirituality once you experience life like that.

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I found these two posts below and wanted to talk about them at a later date, so I'm placing them here.

I'm still doing a bunch of work outside that I need to get done so zero time now. Eating breakfast and typing at the same time, currently.

I will post about my project in my old journal once I'm done.

Ron



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First of all , you need to be very passionate and obsessive with your goal to be a constantly profitable Trader.

Trading will also be more suited to the naturally patient and disciplined and those that are not afraid to take risks. If you can afford to lose money, If that sounds like you, then give yourself at least 3 years , with no guarantees and start very basic.

Trade micro lots, only after you have gained some consistency on the sim.

There is no doubt that the vast majority of people that are consistently profitable have worked their ass off for many years with desperate times of struggling to be consistent.

With all due respect, I would not disclose the fine details of my methods and what works for me because I worked so hard to get where I am and it was brutal.

I can tell you that I had not much patience , which was a disadvantage, but I have huge drive to succeed, discipline and totally obsessed with Trading.

Do not buy any course or learn to trade crap as the people who are hosting those types of courses will NOT be able to teach you as they are most definitely not profitable them selves.

Good luck.


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Hey!

Yhea I will say that I'm pretty patient and disiplined, and definetively not afraid to take risks.
Im usually very obsessibe about everything that can earn money, maby sometimes too much.
I have had some companies in the past and have felt burned out in peroids.

Yes I have installed the ninja sim now and I am watching Damian Castilla's videos on youtube while Im practicing.

I understand very well that you won't disclose your methods my friend
But can you please explain your road to being profitable?
Like what books/information should I read, how much should be practicing, what should I focus most on etc etc?

Wish you all the best!


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Sorry about the lack of attention to this thread. Super busy as of late. Wife on business trips.

Rest assured there is a lot more to come, guaranteed.

Ron

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Some fun watch, posting here since I was reminded of this thread and discussion I had.





Mean nothing special by it, nor do I promote it, just good to hear these kind of ideas/thoughts

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