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Psychology or something else?

 
 icog 
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Rrrracer, sure thanks for you interest and help. I am considering taking a break as Maat suggested but any help is welcome.
Now these number are small to most of you guys, but for a disabled Veteran living in the Philippines it gives me something to do and the ability to hopefully support myself at some point. The average salary is like $250 USD a month here so if I can get this trading thing right I can live pretty well for a small amount.
After a struggle in the beginning I slowly started to make a little and as you will see it started to turn on me. The attachment will spell it out. I know my risk to reward is lousy and as I mentioned I know I leave to much money on the table but I have time to learn and slowly grow. It is literally my life and I get joy from trading.
Maybe after my break I can figure out my hang up and will leave less money on the table

The attached spells it all out in full detail except for my Fidelity account trading which is only a peak of about $3200 profit and the same equity curve at the end, sharply down.
Adding that to the other you get the idea, a sudden drop and low return per trade, inability to stick to a trade without losing. Too many bad and mediocre trades.

Hi,
Most of the traders (including me) never achieve such win/loss ratio long term. For me Your results are great.
What is even better - you are looking for answers when you dont feel comfortable in the market. This is SO important for every trader, i guess your military traning helps you are lot, even if you dont understand it.
As @Maat already said (with other words) - the market is changing, all the time. Whatever worked yesterday does not work today, but it may work tomorrow . Being a constantly succesfull trader is something i can only dream of. The only advise i can afford to give you - dont hurry, take your time. Trade only when you feel confident enough.

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 Marketmonkey 
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Thanks, the win ratio I was happy with it was the return and risk reward that bothered. In attempting to increase that things started to fall apart.
I am taking the advice given and taking a bit of a break.
One thing I noticed is that since about September the Asian markets in what I trade started getting really flat and difficult to trade. I was not prepared with adjustments for that.
I try and be pretty self critical for improvement reasons. Since I am stumped with finding improvements I am going to enjoy the water, read a book other than something to do with trading and catch up on emails to friends and family back home then back in the saddle.
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M

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Those results look fantastic to me. The markets are constantly changing and evolving. It could just be a lull in the action, or maybe something more long term that will require you to modify your approach. Either way, I think you're taking the right approach by pulling back and taking a little time to yourself. I'm about ready to do the same. Call it a plateau; good time to take a break and come back fresh.

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Hey MarketMonkey, how have things been going since your original post?


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 Marketmonkey 
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Hey MarketMonkey, how have things been going since your original post?


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Thanks for asking. I took two months off exploring Myanmar and Laos and jumped back in. I am calmer and more focused and seem to be back on track. Last week I had a big slip but I know exactly what happened. Thinking your right before it happens is a very dangerous game to play and almost always results it hurt profits or losses. I noted the mistake and did some mental work to prevent that in the future.
The advice I was given was spot on, get away from work and clear my mind, it worked wonders and gave me a better perspective.
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MM

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Thanks for asking. I took two months off exploring Myanmar and Laos and jumped back in. I am calmer and more focused and seem to be back on track. Last week I had a big slip but I know exactly what happened. Thinking your right before it happens is a very dangerous game to play and almost always results it hurt profits or losses. I noted the mistake and did some mental work to prevent that in the future.

The advice I was given was spot on, get away from work and clear my mind, it worked wonders and gave me a better perspective.

Regards,

MM



That’s nice. Whatever the strategy is, you gotta have that stop placed in. No matter how stupid the trader or just poor entries that stop will keep you going. Eventually you’ll have a smooth period that suits your style and you have a string of winners. Even if your stop was in a poor spot or too tight, better get back in a few times and stopped out than wiped out. Eventually you have to figure out the stop placement because it can be death by thousand cuts. Iantg does a good job explaining some of this. R/R and day volatility, range.


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