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View Poll Results: All in all out or scale in and out?
All in, all out 79 32.92%
All in, scale out 103 42.92%
Scale in, scale out 58 24.17%
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All in all out vs. scaling in and out

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All in all out vs. scaling in and out

I am curious to know how you trade. Do you trade all in all out or do you scale in and scale out? Obviously this only applies if you trade more than one contract.

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risk-reward is significantly better when you scale in and out of orders

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hmm... not according to my stats

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Interesting. Gives me an idea for another poll which I will be creating soon.

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hmm... not according to my stats


maybe you are not managing your positions appropriately then...

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I am with BigDog on this one, scaling-in and out is critical for controlling risk.

All-in, scale-out can work well also if the strategy is designed around that.

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I'm an all-in, scale-out guy. I was just wondering, when you are scaling in, are you scaling in at different price levels of the same move, or scaling in at the same price. So for example, if ES if 958.00 looking for a 4-tick scalp, and you buy 2 contracts, and it goes up to 958.50, do you then buy more, hoping for another 4-tick scalp, or do you wait to see if it comes back to 958.00 to buy more? I guess it depends a lot on your setup and what you hoping to get out of the trade and how you manage your risk. I'm just wondering about real-world scaling-in examples. It seems I feel lucky if I can even find a trade that runs far enough for me to scale into and still make money.

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i'm constantly working orders on both sides 3 or 4 per side at various levels...


essentially working average prices

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i'm constantly working orders on both sides 3 or 4 per side at various levels...


essentially working average prices

So like market making essentially?

What kind of stops/targets do you use in that kind of scenario?

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BigDog,
does this mean once your are in a trade, you add to your position what is possible,
average up or down - depending what the market gives you ?

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