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Anybody do any EFT's?

Emotional Freedom Technique's. They have rocked my world. The challenge is to have someone do them that knows your issue.

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gary i studied remote viewing and it has helped my trading...sharky

Ok @sharky, I'll bite...how has studying remote viewing improved your trading?


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if you can see it, you will gain, because you attitude will chance to the right side

@wh, can you expound on this "Cause and Effect" principle?

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." --- "Therefore, I Believe it and I will see it. And every day and in every way, I am healthier, wealthier, and wiser."
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Gary,

I have just gone through the first couple of pages in this thread and would like to thank you for sharing and being so honest about your self. I think it is really cool and marvelous to see people being open minded enough to explore and doing what ever it takes.

Regarding faith, I would like to comment that what ever we do to evolve, that be psychotherapy, hypnosis or so on, it all comes down to our neural networks programmed belief system, perception of reality, reality paradigm, or what ever one would like to call it. But if you are referring to the book Evolve Your Brain by Joe Dispenza you already know this. I think he is one of the top resources on the matter. I got to know about him through the movie What The Bleep do We Know - Down the Rabbit Hole where he talks about it.

The thing that gave me the big shift in both life and trading was that I had to take a step back and take a serious look at my reality perceptions. At the same time as I went through them I studied things like in Evolve Your Brain, The Field by Lynn McTaggart and other stuff that concerned subjective evaluation of self worth to come up with the facts and the obvious. Then from the best-as-I-could-facts I decided what to believe in and take a leap of faith into my new reality. A fantastic experience. My ego got proof that there actually were better realities than the one I previously lived in, it was safe to believe in something more positive, not at all dangerous
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. Crazy right? but as you most probably know this is how the ego works. One of the simple more important sentences of wisdom that came out from my process was; If something makes you feel bad or gives you a destructive behavioral pattern, it is simply put always based on a lie in your fundamental belief system. If one have the truth, things works effortlessly and ones system falls into wholeness and good health.

Thanks and the best of luck,
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rempte viewing

from my understanding all information is already availble asout side gravity the is really no such thing as time so when the christians say god knows the past present and future i understand what that means,remote viewing trains your hand to draw what your minds already sees but what your concience mind doesnt relize at the moment.there are several approaches to it,i just used it as a means to relax my mind more and get in the "zone"...sharky

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Lucid Dreaming

I see a ton of great comments/suggestions/questions here on this thread and wanted to ask about a related subject....

Lucid dreaming.

I have been studying lucid dreaming for many months now, and have had a handful. The last one happened about 2 weeks ago, and was very fun. Anyway, I think this is another tool we can use to gain access to our subconscious or to help perform visualization and practice for certain activities we may want to improve upon. Based on what I have read, in many cases, the mind works in a very similar way when we perform a physical activity, and then when we visualize the same activity on a regular basis through hypnotherapy, meditation, or lucid dreaming, for example.

I am still very new to this subject, and would love to hear other's thoughts and experiences on this subject.

I can tell you I believe keeping a dream journal is an important step, and I have tried a number of techniques including MILD, DILD, and WILD. I have also tried various audio tools to help create the opportunity for a lucid dream to occur.

No matter what you believe, lucid dreaming has the potential to be a ton of fun, if nothing more. But, me personally, I believe it to be another powerful tool of the mind, which when used properly can help you improve on a number of things more quickly than without.

Thoughts/comments?

Gary

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....Lucid dreaming.

I have been studying lucid dreaming for many months now, and have had a handful. The last one happened about 2 weeks ago, and was very fun. Anyway, I think this is another tool we can use to gain access to our subconscious or to help perform visualization and practice for certain activities we may want to improve upon.....

Thoughts/comments?

Gary

Hello Gary.

I am working on a project for myself, and if you would be interested I would suggest that you get hold of a Silva CD where the whole spectrum of Silva sounds are recorded without any voice. With the whole spectrum I mean Delta, Theta and Alpha wave frequencies. What one can then do is to write down the behavior affirmations one wish. Like trading rules and so on, but be aware that you don't use negative affirmations like "don't do that, or never do this and so on", instead use affirmations where you tell your self what you are doing as you are already doing it, like "every time this happens I do...". Then record this with each of the different wave spectrums, meaning you are repeating your text three times and thus programming your self on three levels in a row in one session. During the sessions you visualize doing the affirmations.

The advantage of both Delta, Theta and Alpha is that we often do not know when a behavior or perception was adopted. So we make sure that we program on all three levels. Another advantage with all three levels is that we are enforcing the affirmations. One of the reasons for using positive affirmations where you act as you already do it is because of the same principle of "power of example" which is what children use when they learn their behaviour from looking at us grown ups.

I do not remember exactly, but I think I am pretty accurate when I say Delta is dominant from birth to about three years old. Theta is from about three years to seven, and Alpha is from seven to about fourteen. It is not until after fourteen years of age that we get the Beta as the dominant wave frequency. What this means is that things happening from birth to three years old is most effectively accessed and reprogrammed when you go down to Delta level and so on. This is why telling your self positive affirmations when walking around in Beta state does not work very well. What I also think is interesting about this on a personal level is that we have different needs and phases for developement when we grow up. As an example, if one then go back and see that when we were four years old we had those and those needs which was not met, we can go down to Theta level and work with it effectively.

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Just saw this thread last night and caught up w it today while the russell has stopped producing signals I like...

I know the hypnosis aspect of this thread has been covered a bunch but thought I'd weigh in. I think hypnosis is a tool and can have an effect on our behavior. I don't subscribe any special status to it other than it is an effective way to encourage mindfulness at times when we need to be more mindful. Mindfulness is just being able to "keep our cool" under pressure in a way that allows us to remember how we want to behave under given circumstances. For instance, when we're watching the market and a pattern comes up that we traded in the past but no longer view as a valid signal - we want to be mindful and NOT take the trade although if we are "off-center" (by this I mean overly influenced by our emotional state be it fear, greed, hope, etc) we may react and enter a trade.

One trap I believe exists in the hypnosis/self-hypnosis field is that of "something for nothing". Because hypnosis is a technique that is reported to "work on your subconscious" and is done "to you" by someone else, it seems to hold the promise of change without effort. One thing I do believe is that changing habits of thought and emotion is not easy - however this is not to say that they must take a long time. If you've ever had experience (yourself or with someone else) with PTSD then you know that significant change can take place rather quickly if the emotional experience is powerful enough. Any program of change that you commit to is going to take engaging powerful emotions over time - if you think that hypnosis will sidestep this then we disagree about what hypnosis is.

I like Fattails suggestion of the buddha statue - using a talisman of some sort has a long history in human societies - having a physical representation and reminder of your desire to be mindful is an effective technique if used over time.

Steenbarger has a great lecture on behavior change techniques that I found helpful.

Something else I wanted to mention is Ed Seykota's Trading Tribe project (see here) - basically a group therapy process to understand and overcome the emotions that prevent you from trading as would like to trade.

Gary - I'm curious how you plan to use lucid dreaming to help you in your trading? Or is it a way to just explore some of your subconscious? or something else?

I'm struggling with behavior change right now (I guess when am I not?) - just trying to let go of some past ways of thinking and reacting. I'm using a daily scorecard to give myself intra-day scores on how I'm doing at practicing some of the things I've written in my journal as needing to change (e.g., rehearsing trading rules and principles, recognizing "anti-rule" thoughts, actively stopping "anti-rule" thoughts, etc).

thanks for the thread.

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... Gary - I'm curious how you plan to use lucid dreaming to help you in your trading? Or is it a way to just explore some of your subconscious? or something else?
Surly

Hi Surly,

Thank you for the reply.

To answer your question, I became interested in lucid dreaming mostly as a way to explore the subconscious, our dreams, and learn more about how our brain works. I have had a handful of them, and the last one I had was months ago, but was the most vivid by far.

I also agree with much of what you said about hypnosis, and that is it definitely not 'something for nothing'. I think much of how effective it is comes down to how much you believe it can/will work.

Have a good day,
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Gary - you're welcome, thanks for all your contributions here - I've benefited from them.

Have you read the daily trading coach yet? (I'm guessing you have but if you haven't, its a great book). Something I did which I found helpful was I got a pdf of the book (I bought the original) and converted it into an audiobook using speech generation software. I now listen to that book all the time when I'm riding my bike or driving, etc. So many good lessons on self-coaching and self-development in there and the repetition has been helpful.

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Gary - you're welcome, thanks for all your contributions here - I've benefited from them.

Have you read the daily trading coach yet? (I'm guessing you have but if you haven't, its a great book). Something I did which I found helpful was I got a pdf of the book (I bought the original) and converted it into an audiobook using speech generation software. I now listen to that book all the time when I'm riding my bike or driving, etc. So many good lessons on self-coaching and self-development in there and the repetition has been helpful.

Hi Surly,

Great to hear that you have benefited from some of my contributions here at futures.io (formerly BMT)! I love hearing that kind of stuff.

With regards to The Daily Trading Coach. I have read it, and agree, it is a great book! I get everything on my Kindle now, so I can read on the Kindle, my phone, or my PC, and it has an option on the Kindle to read many books aloud as well. Now, if I just used it when I was exercising or driving.

Have a good one,
Gary

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