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Its an good idea for some certainly. I've decided to lose weight which might help with my standing tolerance.

With trading, I've put on some pounds as I'm at work in bed... Medellin people are remarkably thin and healthy and I've had a few "friendly comments" lately... grrr... haha. Michael Moore on the scalper's thread is 60+, a rock climber and thin as a whippet so I must summon motivation. The lumbar device I'm ordering will I hope correct my spine after exercise.

Edit: @PandaWarrior thank you, I just saw the video you posted while writing above, coincidence! I'm not quite that overweight but certainly there is more I can do.

He is overweight but that's not the purpose of the video, its how he fixed his destroyed back with yoga. I didn't believe it but he documents his journey through pictures taken along the way.....seems legit.

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He is overweight but that's not the purpose of the video, its how he fixed his destroyed back with yoga. I didn't believe it but he documents his journey through pictures taken along the way.....seems legit.

Of course. I think part of my issue at 44 is complacency and trying not to over share but this extra weight may be affecting my T levels (absorption of). This has a system wide affect on men's mental and physical health, particularly with perception of pain. I live in a city of 'Paisa people' women, often considered to be among the most beautiful in the world.

A friend who is 30 recently commented that I did not even glance at several passing supermodels (equivalents of back home). I defended saying, yeah but after two years your used to it... he disagreed. He is right, one should not get 'used to it' haha.

My trading is at its peak, hard to imagine getting much better but possibly I'm too emotionless.

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Of course. I think part of my issue at 44 is complacency and trying not to over share but this extra weight may be affecting my T levels (absorption of). This has a system wide affect on men's mental and physical health, particularly with perception of pain. I live in a city of 'Paisa people' women, often considered to be among the most beautiful in the world.

A friend who is 30 recently commented that I did not even glance at several passing supermodels (equivalents of back home). I defended saying, yeah but after two years your used to it... he disagreed. He is right, one should not get 'used to it' haha.

My trading is at its peak, hard to imagine getting much better but possibly I'm too emotionless.

I share that same complacency, I'm 4 years older than you and I think I am experiencing that same reduction of T levels. I can feel it in my arms and legs....just a general feeling of strength reduction....although this last week I started a new exercise regime....taking it slow at first and building up. Have to if I want to be healthy long term. Diet and exercise seems to be the cure for most things or at least the preventative course of action.

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He (Diamond Dallas Page) was actually on Shark Tank (the TV show) for an investment and got turned down. I was intrigued and bought his DVD set. I have not done much of the actual exercises yet but have seen the videos. He does not use any weights or typical cardio. Everything is dynamic resistance using your own body.



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A doctor friend of mine suggested I watch this video for my back pain....I was very skeptical but results don't seem to lie.....the guy was a paratrooper with multiple jumps that over time destroyed his back.....its pretty remarkable...



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I am really surprised by the usage of trampoline because the landing puts way too much force on the spine, but if it works, who am I to judge? But for temporary weightlessness there are easier ways:

1. Good ol' bathtub. Floating in water is very comfy, hell, you can even trade from there if you want. Throw in candles and music and you are in heaven aka no pain zone.

2. Inversion table. You can get very sturdy ones for under $200 at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=inversion+table

I have one, although I don't use it very frequently. Luckily my backpain is mostly gone, and I think the reason for that is summer swimming and fish oil taking.

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Everything is dynamic resistance using your own body.

Gentle but over time is very effective. Sounds like a flavor of calisthenics. My physio taught me lots of techniques just using a large inflatable gym ball, cycles of 10 reps and rest. You don't need much if aiming for toning not building.


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I am really surprised by the usage of trampoline because the landing puts way too much force on the spine, but if it works, who am I to judge? But for temporary weightlessness there are easier ways:

1. Good ol' bathtub. Floating in water is very comfy, hell, you can even trade from there if you want. Throw in candles and music and you are in heaven aka no pain zone.

2. Inversion table. You can get very sturdy ones for under $200 at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=inversion+table

I have one, although I don't use it very frequently. Luckily my backpain is mostly gone, and I think the reason for that is summer swimming and fish oil taking.

For sure, I don't like the inversion table I must admit but the one where I'm upwards and sloped at ~25 degrees is great. I do have a lumbar strap on it.

My new place will have a hot tub like this and a swimming pool under the cinema screen (converting an old cinema). Once the roof opens (still working on that) I'll be set up and have no excuses at all.

If I complain, nobody will give me any sympathy as I am a lucky...


Hopefully anyone else with pain is getting ideas from this thread. Its not all about me, expertise in many biomedical complaints available

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For sure, I don't like the inversion table I must admit but the one where I'm upwards and sloped at ~25 degrees is great. I do have a lumbar strap on it.[/B]

Most people think they always have to be vertical with an inversion table. Most of the time just lying on hard surface (floor) does half the job. So yes, I am usually only 25-45 degrees inclined on my inversion table. I usually get very sleepy on it, probably due to too much blood into my brain. One thing I should mention for over weight people, it gets a bit uncomfortable at the ankles, after all they hold the weight of the body... just adjust the incline to less if it hurts...

Years ago a chiropractor tried to sell me sessions on his "gravity machine". Those machines cost 50K-70K and basicly they are pulling you apart using harnesses, the same thing what you can achieve with a $200 inversion table.

But I would like to underline the idea of a good supplement for pain control. Fish oil, turmeric are good against inflammation, I also tend to think fish oil greases our joints. Throw in stretching and yoga and you can forget drugs...

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Here is an interesting development my doc was telling me to watch out for last year, looks promising. I have noticed my nose getting bigger as I age haha, 2 for 1 deal here.

Swiss surgeons use nose cells to repair knee joints - CNN.com

"Since 2001, Martin and his team have been investigating a new surgical approach to repairing knees. It uses engineered cartilage tissue grown from patients' own cells, taken from the nasal septum.

The rationale behind this is based on the fact that nasal cells "have a larger and more reproducible capacity to form new cartilage," said Martin. In fact, he and his team demonstrated this in past studies.

"We further established that the cartilage tissue generated by nasal chondrocytes [one type of cell] can respond to physical forces (mechanical loads) similar to articular cartilage and has the 'plasticity' to adapt to a joint environment," added Martin. In one of their pre-tests for the current study, he implanted engineered tissue into goat joints and found it "efficiently integrated with surrounding articular cartilage.""

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I saw this and figured its worth posting.

I have strictly avoided any opoid or codine based pain meds as they are the most obvious gateway to addiction.

Fine for terminal patients or acute injury pain when unavoidable but John Oliver here makes a very good case. Its US pharma that makes the addicts, blaming Mexico for supplying far cheaper heroin after US companies create addicted demand is a lobbyist diversion perhaps.




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I have dealt with chronic back pain since 2003. Though i am much better, at 55 years of age you are fighting an uphill battle. MY injuries were a direct result of an assault, but nothing like yours. The pain is managed but it is there as a reminder. S1 joints pop in and out but not as bad as before. The back alignment is the issue, so back spasms are regular. Instead of using an exercise ball, i have switched to soccer balls that i rotate on, and now actually do the work of a chiropractor. The wonderful popping sound of spine is my new symphony. I have developed my own technique of resetting my S1 joints. I have used and tried everything over the years. I have a full length massage/heat pad that does make for a wonderful relief session. Inversion machine also. I may go back to electric stimulus for more relief, because i have gone back to heavy lifting to increase Test. But increases the knots for now. A friend(on-line) who was severely debilitated , and tremendous athlete over the years healed himself this way. And uses power bands that he developed to stretch his torso thereby decompressing. lactic acid build plays a big part. He is a food specialist , down to the science. I have another friend who provides me an ointment that I didn't believe would work but I applied it to swollen finger joints (from farming and heavy lifting no doubt} and received fairly quick relief and healing. Back is next as soon as i get the next patch..hopefully. You can pm me if you wish for details(more available perhaps where you are). We are hoping to visit/move to south america in near future. I have several cousins who are native there, and their father migrated from Italy. All the best to you and yours.

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