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Hello

1 yes
2 yes but not every year

it took 2 years and a lot of capital....

in fact it depends a lot on your trading account size, it is much easier to make 100.000 a year if your account is 1 million
so it is all relative

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Tiger Woods would never take lessons from an amateur golfer ... And yes, I'm sure there are things that can be learned from those who are less experienced and less skilled. But my first choice will always be with those better than I. And I will always do what has proven to be beneficial to me.

If he had taken lessons in moral fibre he would have benefited his game tremendously. .. again .. I guess it depends what each person decides is beneficial

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If he had taken lessons in moral fibre he would have benefited his game tremendously. .. again .. I guess it depends what each person decides is beneficial

TJ

You made a statement, but you didn't back it up with facts. Tell me, how would his game have benefited with having moral fibre? Psychologically the divorce has taken over mentally, but as time passes so will the pain and he is on the come back trail now.

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You made a statement, but you didn't back it up with facts. Tell me, how would his game have benefited with having moral fibre? Psychologically the divorce has taken over mentally, but as time passes so will the pain and he is on the come back trail now.

It was obviously an opinion, so maybe he doesn't have to back it up with facts.

You really don't see a connection between the results of Tiger's infidelity and the collapse of his game? You don't believe that a lack of distractions helps performance? I've said it elsewhere on this forum: nothing can hurt your performance trading more than a major upheaval in your life, such as a divorce. Golf is no different. Also, fans used to love him, now many of them heckle him. It can't help his confidence, knowing that many who idolized him now want him to lose.

From a more practical standpoint, one of Tiger's lifetime goals is to win more major championships than Nicklaus. Professional athletes' careers have a limited length, and losing at least a year can't help him. Also, how opponents look at him has changed. He's now human, and therefore beatable.

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It was obviously an opinion, so maybe he doesn't have to back it up with facts.

You really don't see a connection between the results of Tiger's infidelity and the collapse of his game? You don't believe that a lack of distractions helps performance? I've said it elsewhere on this forum: nothing can hurt your performance trading more than a major upheaval in your life, such as a divorce. Golf is no different. Also, fans used to love him, now many of them heckle him. It can't help his confidence, knowing that many who idolized him now want him to lose.

From a more practical standpoint, one of Tiger's lifetime goals is to win more major championships than Nicklaus. Professional athletes' careers have a limited length, and losing at least a year can't help him. Also, how opponents look at him has changed. He's now human, and therefore beatable.

Even when I state my opinion I have a base for my thesis. I did in fact say that Tiger's divorce played a mental role in his game did I not? In "MY" opinion there will always be distractions in ones life, some major and some minor. Again in "MY" opinion you need the mental strength to temporarily block those distractions when it comes to work. If you cannot do this then you should not attempt to perform your job or game.

I will always be a big fan of Tiger Woods. I don't condone his infidelity, but I like him as a golfer. And from what I read and know there are many who feel the same as I do. Time is a great healer and he will overcome this setback and dominate the tour like he once did. In golf losing a year or even two will not be detrimental to his overall goal at his age. No one is even close to the the major championships wins to Tiger. I don't think you are making your statements about Tiger or the other tour players based on facts from information but purely "YOUR" opinion which is lacking substance. Because your wrong about how the other players have reacted towards him. My suggestion, gets your facts straight before you make a statement.

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235 posts whats the score?

"Primary source of income: how many have made it?".
The PNL is in the red, same as the overall odds?... or was this meant to be a rhetorical question?

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Even when I state my opinion I have a base for my thesis. I did in fact say that Tiger's divorce played a mental role in his game did I not? In "MY" opinion there will always be distractions in ones life, some major and some minor. Again in "MY" opinion you need the mental strength to temporarily block those distractions when it comes to work. If you cannot do this then you should not attempt to perform your job or game.

Me too, or if I don't have a basis for my opinion I say so. I think that @traderjon's point was pretty obvious, and not the sort of opinion that he had to defend with a complicated argument.


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I will always be a big fan of Tiger Woods. I don't condone his infidelity, but I like him as a golfer. And from what I read and know there are many who feel the same as I do. Time is a great healer and he will overcome this setback and dominate the tour like he once did. In golf losing a year or even two will not be detrimental to his overall goal at his age. No one is even close to the the major championships wins to Tiger. I don't think you are making your statements about Tiger or the other tour players based on facts from information but purely "YOUR" opinion which is lacking substance. Because your wrong about how the other players have reacted towards him. My suggestion, gets your facts straight before you make a statement.

On major distractions like divorce and work, if you can block them, great. It has been my experience that some truly great traders, guys with eight and maybe nine figure lifetime incomes, have had their work severely disrupted by divorce. It can be a career destroyer in this business. So the point I want to repeat is to be aware of that, and step back if it screws you up too much.

On Tiger: I like him as a player and hope he's able to come back. He's great for the game of golf. Personally, I'm pretty sure he will come back. On the things I said about his career, most of them are definitely true. He is being heckled. What is guesswork on my part is the psychological effect that is having on him, and what I said is "It can't help his confidence" which is pretty clearly true. I suppose it could help his resolve, however. He did lose at least a year's worth of majors, and he's no longer a young athlete. He has knee injuries that have already forced him to change his swing, and so far that's not going so well. You said I'm wrong about how other players have reacted to him from a confidence standpoint. I read that in a Golf Magazine article. I know they support him, but that wasn't the substance of my point. And how do you know I'm wrong? Have you interviewed all the other players on tour, or seen a poll? It only takes a couple of good players who no longer are in awe of him to prevent him from winning a tournament. He just lost in the first round of a match play tournament to someone I'd never heard of, and match play is Tiger's strongest suit.

I think my facts are pretty straight. By the way, you misspelled "you're" in the sentence "Because your wrong about how the other players have reacted towards him. If you want to tell me what to do and what to say and when to say it, at least spell correctly.

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Me too, or if I don't have a basis for my opinion I say so. I think that @traderjon's point was pretty obvious, and not the sort of opinion that he had to defend with a complicated argument.



On major distractions like divorce and work, if you can block them, great. It has been my experience that some truly great traders, guys with eight and maybe nine figure lifetime incomes, have had their work severely disrupted by divorce. It can be a career destroyer in this business. So the point I want to repeat is to be aware of that, and step back if it screws you up too much.

On Tiger: I like him as a player and hope he's able to come back. He's great for the game of golf. Personally, I'm pretty sure he will come back. On the things I said about his career, most of them are definitely true. He is being heckled. What is guesswork on my part is the psychological effect that is having on him, and what I said is "It can't help his confidence" which is pretty clearly true. I suppose it could help his resolve, however. He did lose at least a year's worth of majors, and he's no longer a young athlete. He has knee injuries that have already forced him to change his swing, and so far that's not going so well. You said I'm wrong about how other players have reacted to him from a confidence standpoint. I read that in a Golf Magazine article. I know they support him, but that wasn't the substance of my point. And how do you know I'm wrong? Have you interviewed all the other players on tour, or seen a poll? It only takes a couple of good players who no longer are in awe of him to prevent him from winning a tournament. He just lost in the first round of a match play tournament to someone I'd never heard of, and match play is Tiger's strongest suit.

I think my facts are pretty straight. By the way, you misspelled "you're" in the sentence "Because your wrong about how the other players have reacted towards him. If you want to tell me what to do and what to say and when to say it, at least spell correctly.


Having this debate with you reminds me of an old friend. I divorced her ass several years ago.

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Having this debate with you reminds me of an old friend. I divorced her ass several years ago.

Did you keep the rest of her?

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Did you keep the rest of her?


No....not even the memories...LOL!!!

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