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Primary source of income: how many have made it?

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"It wasn't easy but I did find some and what I saw was that there are guys who make an absolute fortune but from the second they crack it they go as silent as the tomb. Not a word, sometimes their friends don't even know what these guys actually do for a living. "

Truth right here! I advise reading it over and over 100 or more times! Then maybe it will sink in and you will begin to believe it.

What was it that they found? They descibed it to him as cracking the code.

I call it my hidden treasure. That is why I say " No one gives the secret location to their hidden treasure"" And if they do, you can be sure their treasure is worthless"

I nod to the posts offered by the guys from the pit. I wish I would of gone down that path.

After a week on this site I feel I must go. I almost want to give a hint or two. But I worked too hard to come across the knowledge to even give a hint.

Apparently, you didn't plan on sharing and you don't expect anyone to say anything of any value. Good luck to you and I'm glad you found your special reason to leave.

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farmer55 View Post
Previous post by some one a few pages ago

"It wasn't easy but I did find some and what I saw was that there are guys who make an absolute fortune but from the second they crack it they go as silent as the tomb. Not a word, sometimes their friends don't even know what these guys actually do for a living. "

Truth right here! I advise reading it over and over 100 or more times! Then maybe it will sink in and you will begin to believe it.

What was it that they found? They descibed it to him as cracking the code.

I call it my hidden treasure. That is why I say " No one gives the secret location to their hidden treasure"" And if they do, you can be sure their treasure is worthless"

I nod to the posts offered by the guys from the pit. I wish I would of gone down that path.

After a week on this site I feel I must go. I almost want to give a hint or two. But I worked too hard to come across the knowledge to even give a hint.


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Apparently, you didn't plan on sharing and you don't expect anyone to say anything of any value. Good luck to you and I'm glad you found your special reason to leave.

Andrew

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I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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Tiger Woods would never take lessons from an amateur golfer Granted, I am not Tiger, but I have the same principles. I don't feel this way to demean anyone or feel that I am above anyone. It has always been my life experience to learn from those who are above me, not lateral or below me. And I have benefited 10 fold from this philosophy. And yes, I'm sure there are things that can be learned from those who are less experienced and less skilled. But my first choice will always be with those better than I. And I will always do what has proven to be beneficial to me.


But if the people above you have the same philosophy you do... they won't talk to you...

I'm just a simple man trading a simple plan.

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But if the people above you have the same philosophy you do... they won't talk to you...

Absolutely correct, they wouldn't take advice from me. But, you feed their ego enough and ask the right questions they will share what works for them. Remember, I would be the one looking for help from them, not the other way around.

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Absolutely correct, they wouldn't take advice from me. But, you feed their ego enough and ask the right questions they will share what works for them. Remember, I would be the one looking for help from them, not the other way around.


Absolutely. I have learned much from traders above me - not by feeding egos but by being, for lack of a better word, "gracious". I am here to learn. Perhaps the following is only one reason why a successful trader won't share.
I personally know a trader (doesn't live far from me) who takes over a million out of the futures market every year. I got to know him slowly, saw he was no BS artist, and through conversation he showed me a great deal. Why, you may wonder, was he apprehensive at first? Because MANY people are NOT open minded. I was in a forum / blog with him and when he stated the amount of $$ he made on an annual basis the beating he took in the blog was just unbelievable! He got on the phone with me and said he'd NEVER share his income again. Why help those who don't want to be helped and are probably frustrated traders or wannabes. And the ironic part he said is "you have no idea how much some traders make in this business, while I am comfortable with my income, to some traders my million a year is chump change."
I still am in contact with him . . . now only if he'd give me about $200K to trade with .

One caveat here, I've also learned from traders below me . . . there is always something to learn. Open your ears, eyes and mind.

Just my humble opinion.

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Absolutely correct, they wouldn't take advice from me. But, you feed their ego enough and ask the right questions they will share what works for them. Remember, I would be the one looking for help from them, not the other way around.

Don't pro golfers take advice from their caddies? Tiger is routinely coached by golfers who are not as good as he is, given that Jack Nicholas never coached him. Pete Carrill, one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time (Princeton), was about 5'7" tall. Those who know less than you may still know something you do not.

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.... you feed their ego enough and ask the right questions.....

... my friend Charlotte the Harlot uses the same approach in her line of work... quit effectively I might add .

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... my friend Charlotte the Harlot uses the same approach in her line of work... quit effectively I might add .

Disclaimer: This post does not represent the view point the owners, managers, or moderators of this web site and is not intended as a slam against any moderator, board member, any banned former members whose name we dare not say, any other living person, any recently living person or any person or persons whose status we are not sure of. This post is meant purely in jest and should not be confused with a real thought.


I have been in Sales & Marketing for 28 years. I know if you make people feel good about themselves and what their doing then you always get what you want. And to do this you need to have empathy.

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