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Congratulations you have achieved total awareness - a very special and sacred place.
You are not alone this is a very powerful technique. I sent you a suggestion you can try to open new doors.

It's gotten a little tough these days because sometimes I forget to do it or I just get distracted and/or stressed out by life. I have actually done something similar to what you suggested and I think it has worked in my favor to get me to where I am. I appreciate any suggestions because I do feel alone with this experience. Sometimes it's very powerful to the extent that I feel strange explaining it to other people because they either think I'm fabricating the events, or they think I'm just nuts. Very few will actually believe, and I haven't found anyone who has had the same identical experience. Some, however, have had meditations that bare resemblance, but they're still different.

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It's gotten a little tough these days because sometimes I forget to do it or I just get distracted and/or stressed out by life. I have actually done something similar to what you suggested and I think it has worked in my favor to get me to where I am. I appreciate any suggestions because I do feel alone with this experience. Sometimes it's very powerful to the extent that I feel strange explaining it to other people because they either think I'm fabricating the events, or they think I'm just nuts. Very few will actually believe, and I haven't found anyone who has had the same identical experience. Some, however, have had meditations that bare resemblance, but they're still different.

Your experience sounds like samahdi, which is the blissful state. There is another step you can take which when taken
will allow you to get at any emotional root problems in your subconscious. The key is not to just meditate but anchor the feeling when in the meditative state and be able to summon that feeling at a moments notice while trading. This is peace/ Zen when you do not have this feeling you don't trade until you get it back. When in this state you don't care about discipline- you don't need it.

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Your experience sounds like samahdi, which is the blissful state. There is another step you can take which when taken
will allow you to get at any emotional root problems in your subconscious. The key is not to just meditate but anchor the feeling when in the meditative state and be able to summon that feeling at a moments notice while trading. This is peace/ Zen when you do not have this feeling you don't trade until you get it back. When in this state you don't care about discipline- you don't need it.

I hope it's giving me discipline. Sometimes the trance is frightening because my mind has no frame of reference to witnessing such a vast spectrum of spacial differences. These shapes are expanding into something which is not there, and then morphing down within themselves to such a small size that it's disorienting.

Imagine being teleported in the center of something like a large, weirdly shaped cavern the size of a skyscraper that's completely hollowed out and in a split second's time you're peering into the something the size of a grain of rice with a small camera. Sometimes the shapes get to a point that I feel it's too much for me to take in despite having no painful sensation whatsoever.

I think what's happening is that since I'm blocking out all sensation, my mind tries to fill in the pieces of what's around me but has no frame of reference. Similar things happen to people in sensory deprivation tanks. The shapes start as a normal size like the size of my room and the size of a bowling ball, but as the feedback loop continues to cycle with no sensory input the sizes start to diverge.

This is quite a spectacular phenomenon, but I'm afraid I might be damaging, or putting too much strain on my brain. Maybe that, or I'm really strengthening some facet of my mind.







If I do gain some insight into the universe, it's that it's enormous beyond comprehension. It literally can't be conceived. People can only quantify numbers, or shapes, no larger or smaller than what they can physically see.

I've learned that I can think without using language. Maybe this is the language of the creator and it's trying to communicate with me on the smallest level it can without overloading my brain and causing me to go into a seizure or something.

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I hope it's giving me discipline. Sometimes the trance is frightening because my mind has no frame of reference to witnessing such a vast spectrum of spacial differences. These shapes are expanding into something which is not there, and then morphing down within themselves to such a small size that it's disorienting.

Imagine being teleported in the center of something like a large, weirdly shaped cavern the size of a skyscraper that's completely hollowed out and in a split second's time you're peering into the something the size of a grain of rice with a small camera. Sometimes the shapes get to a point that I feel it's too much for me to take in despite having no painful sensation whatsoever.

I think what's happening is that since I'm blocking out all sensation, my mind tries to fill in the pieces of what's around me but has no frame of reference. Similar things happen to people in sensory deprivation tanks. The shapes start as a normal size like the size of my room and the size of a bowling ball, but as the feedback loop continues to cycle with no sensory input the sizes start to diverge.

This is quite a spectacular phenomenon, but I'm afraid I might be damaging, or putting too much strain on my brain. Maybe that, or I'm really strengthening some facet of my mind.

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If I do gain some insight into the universe, it's that it's enormous beyond comprehension. It literally can't be conceived. People can only quantify numbers, or shapes, no larger or smaller than what they can physically see.

I've learned that I can think without using language. Maybe this is the language of the creator and it's trying to communicate with me on the smallest level it can without overloading my brain and causing me to go into a seizure or something.

Perhaps it is your ego trying to make sense of something that is not necessary. Just be in the now-
NOW is where the magic happens. If you want to improve NOW is the place to do it. Simply observe
ask a question - apply an intent softly- be thankful - know that it is done and release.

See it

Be it

Believe it

Feel it

Know it

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Perhaps it is your ego trying to make sense of something that is not necessary. Just be in the now-
NOW is where the magic happens. If you want to improve NOW is the place to do it. Simply observe
ask a question - apply an intent softly- be thankful - know that it is done and release.

See it

Be it

Believe it

Feel it

Know it

Makes sense. If you think about it, everything we see, hear, think, or feel is usually associated and identified with past information or prepared for future situations. So, when you disconnect someone's memory and senses from the situation, what do you have left? The now.

The now can be a very chaotic place as it's described in cosmology and quantum physics, so I assume what's happening in between the ears is very similar considering where it came from.

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“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”

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Some may think it's a hoax, but even if he is being fed at times when the cameras aren't rolling he still sits like that for months in the same place. He sweats profusely without drinking water or shows any sign of releasing excrement. He's still alive and meditating today.

I've watched many documentaries, but have never have seen anything as conclusive that defies modern scientific reasoning. For someone to be able to sit outside in the cold, rain, sunshine, and night without really moving for months says a lot about what we as humans are really capable of doing. It sure as hell minimizes one's living expenses!

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