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 elitetradernyc 
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Hey guys, what is a good profit factor for an automated system? I have developed an automated system that gets between 2 and 3 in most timeframes in Ninjatrader, is this the best I can do?

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What's your winning percentage?

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65-85% depending on the time frame and instrument.

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Hey guys, what is a good profit factor for an automated system? I have developed an automated system that gets between 2 and 3 in most timeframes in Ninjatrader, is this the best I can do?

Anything that consistently gives you noticeably greater net ROI than the interest rate you get from your local friendly bank, and such that you don't incur a dangerous drawdown which threatens your ability to continue trading (ie a margin call).

winning percentage is meaningless without discussing drawdown

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65-85% depending on the time frame and instrument.

2-3 profit factor with 65-85% consistency is amazing, with any system (discretionary/automated) IMO.
Now can it be done going forward is the question? Also, how long was your lookback for your testing?

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The period is for the past 8 years or so. Will let you know on the forward testing, I think I need to get the NT license for that a sim account at IB.

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Max drawdown % pretty steep at 20%.

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Most likely your results are not at all accurate.

You probably aren't familiar enough with NT's "gotchas" and have fallen into a trap of limit orders, 1 bar targets, or exotic bar types, among others.

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This is an interesting question what was on my mind also. I'am very interested in what the experienced traders on this board would view as a cutt-off point of the testing and would trade a method - automated or discretionary - with real cash.

If you take into account the following parameters:

1.hitratio
2.risk/reward ratio
3.profit factor ( combination of 1&2)
4.number of trades the method generates per unit of time per instrument
5. other...??

What would be your minimum requirements of these parameters, to start trading your method live?
What is realistically attainable?

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