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Further to last post.....reading more about Luminosity and brain function, as well as reading about user feedback to Luminosity programs it seems as if Luminosity is geared towards a retail side of functionality, attempting to have a bit of fun while creating innovative brain teasers while trying to exercise your brain muscles. Is the concept the same as physical exercise? - stimulate your brain and make it sharper.

However, as one reads more...and about the programs developed by more serious efforts ( Mind Sparke, CogniFit and Posit Science)...it seems that the latter 3 are geared towards actually trying to see if cognitive skills and not just be re-ignited but actually be made better by taking your brain out if it's "comfort" zones.

CogniFit's programs seems a "lot" more serious and less "fun" gearing towards actual brain neural activity. To me, from what i have read so far, it looks like sharper, more developed cognitive faculites would play a bigger role in trading than, for example, the "fun" oriented brain games that Luminosity is providing.

I am planning to track my progress in a blog or journal or some sort that one of these programs will have. Not sure which one, but it seems so far it will be either CogniFit or Posit Science. And see what comes of it.

I am convinced some thing quantum can be gained here in terms of trading performnce. Nedd to be sure of focusing effort towards a productive simple task based program.

Forward..

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The other thing that this indirectly links to is the function of dopamine (and in an opposing manner seratonin) in performnce endeavors. The pathways that generate elevated neural performance in a naturally generated fashion (rather than by drugs or supplements). And this of course leads to lifestsyle and food and all that good stuff......

From what I have read, and on a purely layman basis, it seems activities that generate naturally elevated levels of dopamine can be conducive to elevated trading perforemce (all other factors being equal)...being simplistic........so I have definitively found my reading material for the year.

Don't forget to exercise. Running may induce neurogenesis:

Running increases cell proliferation and neurogenesis in the adult mouse dentate gyrus - Nature Neuroscience / https://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v2/n3/pdf/nn0399_266.pdf

How to increase serotonin in the human brain without drugs

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Further to last post.....reading more about Luminosity and brain function, as well as reading about user feedback to Luminosity programs it seems as if Luminosity is geared towards a retail side of functionality, attempting to have a bit of fun while creating innovative brain teasers while trying to exercise your brain muscles. Is the concept the same as physical exercise? - stimulate your brain and make it sharper.

However, as one reads more...and about the programs developed by more serious efforts ( Mind Sparke, CogniFit and Posit Science)...it seems that the latter 3 are geared towards actually trying to see if cognitive skills and not just be re-ignited but actually be made better by taking your brain out if it's "comfort" zones.

CogniFit's programs seems a "lot" more serious and less "fun" gearing towards actual brain neural activity. To me, from what i have read so far, it looks like sharper, more developed cognitive faculites would play a bigger role in trading than, for example, the "fun" oriented brain games that Luminosity is providing.

I am planning to track my progress in a blog or journal or some sort that one of these programs will have. Not sure which one, but it seems so far it will be either CogniFit or Posit Science. And see what comes of it.

I am convinced some thing quantum can be gained here in terms of trading performnce. Nedd to be sure of focusing effort towards a productive simple task based program.

Forward..

I accidentally came across Lumosity over a year ago, and I haven't really investigated other options. I simply use it to keep my working memory sharp. I am also studying mathematics and computer science, while spending my spare time on philosophy, physics and neurology. My main interest is the human mind and my long-term goal is to do build an AI. Thinking about abstract matters is a good way to exercise the brain, and it is much more fun than playing games.

Neurplasticity is a very interesting concept, but I am skeptical of the value any that these services might have over doing simple exercises on one's own. There was a documentary on Canadian TV a couple of years back called "The Brain That Changes Itself".

It's funny you should use the term quantum, I think you might enjoy this book: Amazon.com: The Mind and the Brain: Neuroplasticity and the Power of Mental Force (9780060988470): Jeffrey M. Schwartz, Sharon Begley: Books

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Thanks for the reference....going to look it up when i get back....the synopsis on that book reminds me of this article a while back in Discover....of the power of "emotional" memory. When we link something to an emotional pleasurable side of the brain, our brain response is "astonishing" in their terms. Whereas, in other cases brain responses can vary between tepid to downright incorrect......something already seen in trading....we remember our victories and want to forget the bad events as soon as possible....

Unlocking the Secrets and Powers of the Brain | Mind & Brain | DISCOVER Magazine

On another note, took a preliminary test on Cognifit regrading -
Cognitive function - top 10% percentile ( nice )
Spatial Perception - bottom 30% percentile....ouch
Short term memory - downright gawddawful
Divided attention - top 6% percentile...yea baby !!
Response Time - top 40% percentile (average)

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Thanks for the reference....going to look it up when i get back....the synopsis on that book reminds me of this article a while back in Discover....of the power of "emotional" memory. When we link something to an emotional pleasurable side of the brain, our brain response is "astonishing" in their terms. Whereas, in other cases brain responses can vary between tepid to downright incorrect......something already seen in trading....we remember our victories and want to forget the bad events as soon as possible....

Unlocking the Secrets and Powers of the Brain | Mind & Brain | DISCOVER Magazine

On another note, took a preliminary test on Cognifit regrading -
Cognitive function - top 10% percentile (nice)
Spatial Perception - bottom 30% percentile....ouch
Short term meory - downright gawddawful
Divided attention - top 6% percentile...yea baby !!
Response Time - top 40% percentile (average)

No PA trading for you!

Our brains are constantly playing tricks on us. Kahneman does a decent job of explaining this in layman's terms ( Amazon.com: Thinking, Fast and Slow (9780374275631): Daniel Kahneman: Books)
I am very fascinated by the study of consciousness. I immersed myself in existentialism in my younger days, but now I am more interested in the physical side of it. I'm getting PET scan done within the next few months, something I've wanted to do for years. Hopefully all of my receptors are intact!

An interesting article:
The Brain: The Mystery of Consciousness - TIME

This book is a bit dated now, but it's probably still worth reading : Amazon.com: The User Illusion: Cutting Consciousness Down to Size (Penguin Press Science) (9780140230123): Tor Norretranders: Books

This is also a fascinating take on things:
Amazon.com: On Intelligence (9780805078534): Jeff Hawkins, Sandra Blakeslee: Books

The unconscious mind is also a very interesting subject, especially the effects of psychedelics has on creativity:
LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug?

Huxley's book changed the way I perceived reality when I was about 15. Amazon.com: The Doors of Perception (9780060801717): Aldous Huxley: Books

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I've used Lumosity for about 15 months and I quite like it. I just use it to "exercise" my working memory and improve my concentration. You won't "unlock your mind", but it will make it feel sharper. Some of the exercises made my brain hurt when I first started, but now they are routine.

I started Lumosity tonight....seems like it might be easy enough to do daily but help with mind exercise.....

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I started Lumosity tonight....seems like it might be easy enough to do daily but help with mind exercise.....

Yes. it's a nice way to start the day. I feel that it sharpens my focus before I start trading. I also use the word games to improve my English vocabulary.

The Brain Shift games are particularly grueling, at least they were for me.

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I accidentally came across Lumosity over a year ago, and I haven't really investigated other options. I simply use it to keep my working memory sharp. I am also studying mathematics and computer science, while spending my spare time on philosophy, physics and neurology. My main interest is the human mind and my long-term goal is to do build an AI. Thinking about abstract matters is a good way to exercise the brain, and it is much more fun than playing games.

I think that is a very honorable goal. I once had the same dream but I had to give it up later, I just wasn't smart enough.

Though I still believe that mankind's future lies in the hand of AI, sooner or later society and technology will become too complex for any mortal to comprehend, to further advance our civilization we must rely on smarter means to do so. Besides, history has shown clearly that we keep repeating our errors. No matter how horrendous a mistake was, we tend to forget it in too short a time, and as a result too often had to learn the same lesson again the hard way. We have managed to survive so far, but for how much longer can we retain the same luck?

Machines do not have this problem, they don't ever forget anything, and they can remain impartial longer than any human being can ever hope to achieve. And we don't have to worry about being wiped out by them, if we could somehow program humanity into their core.

Imagine a world where nobody owns anything and yet everyone owns everything, there is no disease, no suffering, and people are free to pursue their interests to the full extent. this is heaven as I can imagine, but I can't imagine us reach such a paradise without giving up control of our society to more capable hands.

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I think the idea of automated car driving, as a small example of AI, would be a huge benefit to most people - with hopefully fewer accidents (and attendant lower insurance costs), less traffic, better fuel consumption and more free time to be productive.

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