NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





cost averaging


Discussion in Psychology and Money Management

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one dom64 with 2 posts (2 thanks)
    2. looks_two Quick Summary with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    3. looks_3 kctpac with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 mangolassi with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    1. trending_up 1,989 views
    2. thumb_up 4 thanks given
    3. group 4 followers
    1. forum 6 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
 

cost averaging

 
 kctpac 
Auburn ma
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Td Ameritrade
Trading: es
Posts: 23 since Jan 2011
Thanks Given: 30
Thanks Received: 9

Does anyone know the formula for cost averaging when a trade goes against you to improve your break even point

Started this thread

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
Pivot Indicator like the old SwingTemp by Big Mike
NinjaTrader
Cheap historycal L1 data for stocks
Stocks and ETFs
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
 
 
 
bluemele's Avatar
 bluemele 
Honolulu, Hawaii
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker: ATC/TT, AMP/Zen-Fire, AMP/CQG
Trading: TF
Posts: 2,543 since Jun 2010
Thanks Given: 3,803
Thanks Received: 2,842



kctpac View Post
Does anyone know the formula for cost averaging when a trade goes against you to improve your break even point

The general consensus is to not average 'down' and to only average 'up'.

However, if you are swing trading or you have a gigantic account (if trading futures) then I would base it off 2 things:

1. Whether or not you got a new signal to enter and you believe a retrace is eminent.

2. You have reached a certain % of ATR that the market typically moves etc., so more of a regression type model.

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal
Thanked by:
 
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,471 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,250
Thanks Received: 101,674

 
Thread Moved


Moved to Money Management



When creating a new thread, note which subforum you are in. Here is a short list of suggestions:

- Topic: Anything to do with an Elite indicator -> Subforum: The Elite Circle
- Topic: Looking for an existing indicator, or how-to use an indicator -> Subforum: (the platform)
- Topic: Programmer needing help with non-Elite indicator -> Subforum: (the platform) - Programming
- Topic: Want an indicator created/modified -> Reply to "Want indicator created free" in Elite Circle
- Topic: Vendors (trading rooms, commercial indicators) -> Subforum: Vendors/Product Reviews
- Topic: Discussion of Forex or Currency trading -> Subforum: Forex and Currency Trading
- Topic: Journals of your trading -> Subforum: Trading Journals or Elite Trading Journals
- Topic: General trading related discussions -> Subforum: Traders Hideout
- Topic: Discussion of a trading method -> Subforum: Traders Hideout
- Topic: Automated Trading -> Subforum: Elite Automated Trading

Last, any Elite Member may create more or less any of these topics in The Elite Circle at your own discretion (your support is appreciated).

This is just a short general list and doesn't cover everything. If you are unsure where to create your new thread, just create it in Traders Hideout and a moderator will move it if necessary.

-- Big Mike Trading




Join the free Markets Chat beta: one platform, all the trade rooms!

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal
 
 dom64 
London, UK
 
Experience: Master
Platform: sierra chart, Jigsaw Trading, Bookmap
Trading: 6E futures, Cable
Posts: 93 since Aug 2012

Very old thread, but like everything else, it is all down to context.. Account size, capital, ATR, but more to the point, I am not sure why it is always assumed that this is a non ending process that will go all the way to ruin. It can certainly do, but when done based on order flow levels, and not based on random levels, or every x points or some such, it is not only effective but it also it allows to give "more room" to a trade, which might not react to a level but can do on the following one, and it often can improve the average price to break down a trade in 2 or 3 legs. If there no reason to believe after the 2nd or 3rd leg that the trade should play out, all there is to do is to get out, just as one would once in a trade that doesn't work out.

 
mangolassi
Boston, MA
 
Posts: 166 since Dec 2014
Thanks Given: 61
Thanks Received: 126


bluemele View Post
The general consensus is to not average 'down' and to only average 'up'.

Not true at all. Many successful traders scale in when a trade takes some heat, due to their premise not being entirely invalidated. I personally scalp with limit orders a lot, and scale in if I take some heat as long as I'm not expecting a strong breakout against my position. You can either scale in at fixed point intervals or at a second signal. If I wasn't doing this, I would be losing a lot of money.

 
 dom64 
London, UK
 
Experience: Master
Platform: sierra chart, Jigsaw Trading, Bookmap
Trading: 6E futures, Cable
Posts: 93 since Aug 2012

Fully agree with you mangalossi..


Sent from my iPhone using NexusFi mobile app


 



Last Updated on September 14, 2016


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts