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Firstly I will say that I agree with everyone here who's posted that controlling risk and not using a profit target is the right way to think about trading and that pressing when you have the advantage is important.

However, I have heard of a trader who has a yearly profit target and trades as intensely as possible from the beginning of the year until that target is made and then takes the rest of the year off. The trader has decided that lifestyle and time are more important to him than money and so once he figured out how much he needs to live for one year he just makes that amount and quits so he can have 7-9 months off a year.

... just another way to look at this business.

Or one can work hard for a few years and then be done with it altogether...

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Or one can work hard for a few years and then be done with it altogether...

Exactly right.

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Or one can work hard for a few years and then be done with it altogether...

That is my current plan, but I really don't think I will ever be "done". I mean I want to just lounge around at the beach and go on cruises and travel the world as much as the next guy... but I think trading will always be a part of my life, even if just as a hobby, or not to sound presumptuous but perhaps as an educator or mentor.

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I like the idea of using a simple moving average on your daily pnl. If you are 'trading above' your pnl SMA line, then you keep your normal size. If you are 'trading below' your pnl SMA line, then you reduce size.

What are your thoughts?

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I never thought of doing it that way, but it's very straightforward, and simple, which is always a good thing. For me however, it more of a visceral kind of thing; I don't have to look at my P&L. I know when I'm trading well and when I'm not, regardless of my P&L and irrespective of market conditions.

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Or one can work hard for a few years and then be done with it altogether...

That's true, but it all depends on what your ( as we used to call it on the floor) fu*k you - number is. It's the amount of cash or net worth it would take, to say fu*k you, and walk away.

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That is my current plan, but I really don't think I will ever be "done". I mean I want to just lounge around at the beach and go on cruises and travel the world as much as the next guy... but I think trading will always be a part of my life, even if just as a hobby, or not to sound presumptuous but perhaps as an educator or mentor.

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My goal has always been to break free from the screen and rather do global macro trading. I think trading will be a part of my life until the end; it's just as much a passion as it is a job. I don't feel the need to be glued to the monitor(s), though.


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That's true, but it all depends on what your ( as we used to call it on the floor) fu*k you - number is. It's the amount of cash or net worth it would take, to say fu*k you, and walk away.

My number is bigger than the liquidity of the markets, that's why I need to branch out!

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I mean I want to just lounge around at the beach and go on cruises and travel the world as much as the next guy

Mike

This takes a special kind of person to be able to do that. I know you know that, but boy, sitting on the beach for so long truly is hard unless you were raised that way in my opinion. We all have dreams of being unproductive, but it isn't in our genetic makeup. Otherwise we would have been Lion food a long time ago.

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but boy, sitting on the beach for so long truly is hard unless you were raised that way in my opinion. We all have dreams of being unproductive, but it isn't in our genetic makeup. Otherwise we would have been Lion food a long time ago.

well said. I know my food won't taste the same unless I can trade. I think it is OK to be addicted to your passion in life.

I have a friend who started a HFT company. He built it up where last year he had about 20 employees and made tens of millions of dollars. Now that he is retired after selling off his company, he is bored to tears. He tried taking university classes to pass time, took up playing classical music, travel etc but nothing seems to comfort him...

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I'm considering adding monthly profit targets to my trading plan and wanted to hear the pros and cons of such an idea.

I trade fully automated on a VPS trading the Euro only.

I believe setting monthly targets while system trading will skew the statistics. Not a good idea imo. As others mentioned, the equity curve will also trend and then go sideways to down. best to push it during the times of uptrend( when presumably there is a strong correlation between your system and the mkt)

may I ask what is your motivation for setting monthly targets, why stop, computers don't need a rest

however not sure about discretionary trading.

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