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What trading platform lets you ZOOM in and out with the mousewheel?

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XM24051
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So far I have tried Ninjatrader, Metatrader, and Tradestation.

They all are unusable.

If I can't tolerate the user input and controls for the software I am using, then I won't be able to use that software successfully for my endeavors. Imagine you started this great job where you make hundreds of thousands per year selling cars. Easy right? There's just one problem. The software you use requires you to upload a selfie of you shoving your thumb up your *** every 30 minutes as verification. That's about how ***** stupid using a MOUSE WHEEL TO PAN THE CHART LEFT AND RIGHT IS. How can you spend SO MUCH MONEY BUILDING A TRADING PLATFORM that does automated trading, futures, forex, options, etc. AND RUIN IT BY FORCING YOUR USERS TO SHOVE THEIR THUMBS UP THEIR A******???

Why can't these stupid trading platform companies come together and set standards for user input or ATLEAST ALLOW USERS TO REBIND KEYS. "Ninja"trader, MTphag, and Turdstation are all guilty of the same problem. Its like they see nothing wrong with making their users finger their buttwholes on camera and expect us to "get used to it". What ever happened to "the customer was always right"? I have seen feature requests on all 3 platforms spanning decades where people have asked for the ability to zoom in using a mouse wheel (like 90% of all software made for computers), and all I see is robotic type responses where people complaining about deal breaking problems being added up to a tally. Maybe when that list is longer than their actual user base they will finally fix the problem (the lack of customization on basic chart controls)

Also, what is up with not having continuous charts or not being able to make trades off of them? How the hell are you supposed to trade daily time frames on futures and draw multi year trendlines on the individual contracts? So I am supposed to use the continuous chart for all my drawings, and then use the contracts to trade? Why? Thats even more inconvenient than the scroll wheel panning BS.

I am about to quit trading because I can't find any software that wasn't made by russians who don't believe in making user input custimizable, and expect long term traders to have 2 charts open to trade the same symbol since you can't make trades off the continuous charts.

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You can look at this for NT8:

https://ninjatrader.com/support/forum/forum/ninjatrader-8/indicator-development/1082977-2-scroll-wheel-zoom-mouse-indicators

I think tradeovate zooms with the mouse wheel.

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 avasfx 
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You can do that in Multicharts with CTRL key pressed. Quantower also allows this (you can choose in settings what mouse wheel will do). Hope this helps
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XM24051
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"An alternative here would be to hire a 3rd party programmer to create what you need and if this is of interest please let us know and we can provide a link to 3rd party programmers"

That's why I don't use NT. They expect us to hire a third part programmer to add an option that their first party programmers forgot to implement. There are forums dating back to 2010 where people have been asking for this "feature". I don't understand why they permanently assigned the mousewheel to pan the chart anyways. You can already pan the chart by dragging the chart with your mouse. So why waste the mousewheel input to do the same thing? That and those horid Ninjatrader copyright watermarks that cover over your indicators that aren't removable are the reasons why I won't be using that platform. Literally no trading platform does that. Ninjatrader is far from being a "premier" platform so these brandings like I am buying a pair of jeans from Buckle is totally unnecessary.

But thanks for the suggestion, I will look into tradeovate

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XM24051
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You can do that in Multicharts with CTRL key pressed. Quantower also allows this (you can choose in settings what mouse wheel will do). Hope this helps
Alex

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Does quantower support trading directly off continuous charts? That's my whole problem with tradingview atm, I like everything about it, but I am considering switching to forex over futures just because I can't directly trade off the continuous charts and have to use the individual contracts. (which only go back a few months)

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 avasfx 
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Does quantower support trading directly off continuous charts? That's my whole problem with tradingview atm, I like everything about it, but I am considering switching to forex over futures just because I can't directly trade off the continuous charts and have to use the individual contracts. (which only go back a few months)

Quantower does not support continuous charts (i hope so far, as it is still very young company). In Multicharts it is possible, as well as in Sierra charts(also mouse wheel with shift). If you are thinking about switching to fix/cfd you might want to check out trader evolution platform from global prime (https://www.globalprime.com/institutional/traderevolution/) it also has what you want

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 avasfx 
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Does quantower support trading directly off continuous charts? That's my whole problem with tradingview atm, I like everything about it, but I am considering switching to forex over futures just because I can't directly trade off the continuous charts and have to use the individual contracts. (which only go back a few months)

So why don't you trade with tradingview via cqg with any broker (personally I don't understand why people use tradingview, it's so uncomfortable, no brackets and advanced order strategies, etc)? You can easily open continuous chart and probably trade off it. And also if you need continuous chart, that probably means that you trade really long term. In that case just analyze your charts in tradingview and execute somewhere else. If you daytrading - you probaly don't need a lot of historical data

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XM24051
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So why don't you trade with tradingview via cqg with any broker (personally I don't understand why people use tradingview, it's so uncomfortable, no brackets and advanced order strategies, etc)? You can easily open continuous chart and probably trade off it. And also if you need continuous chart, that probably means that you trade really long term. In that case just analyze your charts in tradingview and execute somewhere else. If you daytrading - you probaly don't need a lot of historical data

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I'm already using tradingview (which has been my choice for years when I started trading crypto). Now I wised up, and started trading commodities last year. I had a successful scalping strategy for trends and ranges on the 1 hour chart, but it relied on trading directly off the chart and there was a lot of managing already open trades so the ability to see my orders on the chart was like being a field service manager and having a real time map of all your technicians (which was my old profession btw).

However, here is the problem I am running in to. I want to start trading the higher time frames which will allow me to spend less time opening and managing trades, and go back to my business now that the economy seems to picked up where it left off. Here is what trading continuous charts looks like on TV:



Loading the individual contract is only possible for me with charts that don't use drawings. Futures are instruments designed for positions held for atleast a month. Its not practical to remake all of my drawings unto the next contract upon expiration. That might work when you only trade one symbol, but there are atleast 7 futures markets I trade regularly so that will cost a lot of time. If time is money, then that time is wasted money. We are all here because we are tired of wasting money right?



So to sum it up, I only need a futures platform that has the abilities to trade through continuous charts, and zoom using the mouse wheel. (these options should be standardized by now) And it has to be mouse wheel only. Why do these platforms make you do unnecessary macros like there is more than one usecase for the scroll wheel? If anything, zoom should be the most commonly used assignment for the scroll wheel, and panning second. They should have an option to swap control + mouse wheel for zoom and panning. You can already pan the chart with left click + mouse so why is there a need for a second input on a mouse that usually only has a couple buttons? Bad design choices are inherit with all these platforms if you ask me.

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You can be interested in symbol mapping - most futures platforms has it - https://www.multicharts.com/trading-software/index.php/Symbol_Mapping. And it is also very easy to create continuous charts in Multicharts - https://www.multicharts.com/trading-software/index.php/Custom_Futures.
In ninjatrader 8 you even don't need to change anything, just increase the days to load and it will automatically load data. Just try for yourself in demo and decide what is best for you
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I'm already using tradingview (which has been my choice for years when I started trading crypto). Now I wised up, and started trading commodities last year. I had a successful scalping strategy for trends and ranges on the 1 hour chart, but it relied on trading directly off the chart and there was a lot of managing already open trades so the ability to see my orders on the chart was like being a field service manager and having a real time map of all your technicians (which was my old profession btw).

However, here is the problem I am running in to. I want to start trading the higher time frames which will allow me to spend less time opening and managing trades, and go back to my business now that the economy seems to picked up where it left off. Here is what trading continuous charts looks like on TV:



Loading the individual contract is only possible for me with charts that don't use drawings. Futures are instruments designed for positions held for atleast a month. Its not practical to remake all of my drawings unto the next contract upon expiration. That might work when you only trade one symbol, but there are atleast 7 futures markets I trade regularly so that will cost a lot of time. If time is money, then that time is wasted money. We are all here because we are tired of wasting money right?



So to sum it up, I only need a futures platform that has the abilities to trade through continuous charts, and zoom using the mouse wheel. (these options should be standardized by now) And it has to be mouse wheel only. Why do these platforms make you do unnecessary macros like there is more than one usecase for the scroll wheel? If anything, zoom should be the most commonly used assignment for the scroll wheel, and panning second. They should have an option to swap control + mouse wheel for zoom and panning. You can already pan the chart with left click + mouse so why is there a need for a second input on a mouse that usually only has a couple buttons? Bad design choices are inherit with all these platforms if you ask me.

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 tr8er 
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I want to be a good trader, if I can zoom with the mouse-wheel or not is not important and I guess most traders don't need this function and in my opinion it isn't worth to talk longer as 10 seconds, but it seems it is very important to you (what's ok )

Trading of continous contracts maybe is more important if you are watching higher timeframes. I can do it with TradeNavigator and have data back to the start of the contracts, if it makes you a better trader that's another thing and you cannot lever out rollovers, you have to learn that rollovers are part of futures-trading.

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