NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Algorithmic trading in third-party trading platform API, MC+ASP, MC .Net+ASP, NT 8?


Discussion in Platforms and Indicators

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one kevinkdog with 5 posts (7 thanks)
    2. looks_two Lawman with 4 posts (5 thanks)
    3. looks_3 Blonde with 4 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 ShadowFox with 2 posts (3 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one Syntax with 2 thanks per post
    2. looks_two ShadowFox with 1.5 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 kevinkdog with 1.4 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Lawman with 1.3 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 17,088 views
    2. thumb_up 19 thanks given
    3. group 9 followers
    1. forum 19 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Algorithmic trading in third-party trading platform API, MC+ASP, MC .Net+ASP, NT 8?

  #1 (permalink)
Blonde
Luxembourg, LU
 
Posts: 119 since May 2020
Thanks Given: 99
Thanks Received: 17

Hiya,



In the case of developing a Robot for trading FX and Metals on a third-party trading platform API, which one of the trading platforms in the market worth buying?
1- Multicharts +AdvancedStrategyPack (1'997 USD) +purchaseable Add-ons
2- Multicharts .Net +AdvancedStrategyPack (1'997 USD)
3- Ninjatrader 8 (1'099 USD ~ 1'649 USD) +purchaseable Add-ons
4- MotiveWave Ultimate ~2295USD +295USD annual update and support fee {updated}
5- ... ?


Tnx and best of luck

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
Trade idea based off three indicators.
Traders Hideout
REcommedations for programming help
Sierra Chart
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Spoo-nalysis ES e-mini futures S&P 500
33 thanks
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
28 thanks
Bigger Wins or Fewer Losses?
23 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
23 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
21 thanks
  #2 (permalink)
 
FuManChou's Avatar
 FuManChou 
Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: MultiCharts
Broker: Edge Clear LLC
Trading: MNQ
Posts: 100 since Jun 2019
Thanks Given: 1,127
Thanks Received: 120

Do you have any programming experience?

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)
Blonde
Luxembourg, LU
 
Posts: 119 since May 2020
Thanks Given: 99
Thanks Received: 17



FuManChou View Post
Do you have any programming experience?

Hiya @FuManChou


I know a little bit of everything in these programming languages. Little bit C#, Java, C, etc.


I'm not sure if the MC EasyLanguage can beat C# or C# in MC .Net? What is the real difference between Robot generated by EasyLanguage of MC to C# generated MC .Net?

But I prefer NT8 as seems reliable but I'm not sure how to connect the FIX API of NT8 to unsupported brokers?


Tnx and best of luck

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)
 
Syntax's Avatar
 Syntax 
London, UK
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: MultiCharts, MT4, TWS
Broker: IB, Darwinex
Trading: Options, stocks and indices
Posts: 55 since Jul 2020
Thanks Given: 41
Thanks Received: 178

I've done _a lot_ of development around creating trading algos.

I would suggest that you take the path with the least amount of resistance.

In my case, I focus on MultiCharts and MetaTrader4. Both platforms connect to a wide array of brokers / exchanges and allow for relatively fast iteration of ideas.

Your problem currently is not the technology or the programming language, your problem right now is finding strategies that work. To find those strategies, you need to test a lot of ideas. Most of those ideas won't work. Optimise your time for finding ideas and don't optimise your time for the wrong thing (technology choice).

For someone who is not a professional developer, MultiCharts and TradeStation are the easiest to be productive quickly because of the simple nature of EasyLanguage / PowerLanguage.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #5 (permalink)
 
ShadowFox's Avatar
 ShadowFox 
CO/USA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TradeStation, Multicharts
Trading: Stocks, Futures
Posts: 129 since Jun 2020
Thanks Given: 70
Thanks Received: 157

I agree with Syntax. Quickly being able to test ideas is key to success in algo development. If you already have a system that works and you are just looking to optimize and run it, I'd suggest finding the platform that fits your broker needs.

All of your options include upfront costs. Have you thought about using Tradestation to start development and frame some ideas? It's free! I pay no subscriptions, no data fees. Downsides are crashes if you are unlucky, commissions, being stuck to one broker, etc. But to start out and look for ideas that work before you buy a lifetime license, it might not be a bad start. Don't think whatever you start with you will have to live with forever. I could port my strategies over to any algo platform once I learned that new language.

I personally started with Tradestation. Then bought multicharts a few years later. I still trade live on Tradestation every day. I use multicharts for backtesting. It works great for me and best if all it's all $0 monthly fees.

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #6 (permalink)
 ocpb 
Hartford CT, USA
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: None
Trading: ES
Posts: 126 since Jan 2015
Thanks Given: 152
Thanks Received: 125

As of very recently, Multicharts has started to offer software licensing on a monthly or yearly subscription basis. Just another option if you are considering that platform.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #7 (permalink)
 kevinkdog   is a Vendor
 
Posts: 3,664 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 1,892
Thanks Received: 7,359


ShadowFox View Post
I agree with Syntax. Quickly being able to test ideas is key to success in algo development. If you already have a system that works and you are just looking to optimize and run it, I'd suggest finding the platform that fits your broker needs.

All of your options include upfront costs. Have you thought about using Tradestation to start development and frame some ideas? It's free! I pay no subscriptions, no data fees. Downsides are crashes if you are unlucky, commissions, being stuck to one broker, etc. But to start out and look for ideas that work before you buy a lifetime license, it might not be a bad start. Don't think whatever you start with you will have to live with forever. I could port my strategies over to any algo platform once I learned that new language.

I personally started with Tradestation. Then bought multicharts a few years later. I still trade live on Tradestation every day. I use multicharts for backtesting. It works great for me and best if all it's all $0 monthly fees.

That is a good approach. My only caveat here is that if you use different data sources for Tradestation and Multicharts testing, you could get WILDLY different results.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #8 (permalink)
 
ShadowFox's Avatar
 ShadowFox 
CO/USA
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TradeStation, Multicharts
Trading: Stocks, Futures
Posts: 129 since Jun 2020
Thanks Given: 70
Thanks Received: 157


kevinkdog View Post
That is a good approach. My only caveat here is that if you use different data sources for Tradestation and Multicharts testing, you could get WILDLY different results.

Yes good point Kevin. I do use Tradestation as my data source since it is free and I get real time and tick data (not that I need that for the most part). Strategies and studies match perfectly between the two in my case since the data is the same.

Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #9 (permalink)
 Lawman 
Cape Town, South Africa
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Tradestation
Broker: Tradestation
Trading: Futures
Posts: 6 since Mar 2016
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 6

ShadowFox,
How do you get TradeStation data into Multicharts so your dev and live are the same?
Or have I missed something.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #10 (permalink)
 kevinkdog   is a Vendor
 
Posts: 3,664 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 1,892
Thanks Received: 7,359



Lawman View Post
ShadowFox,
How do you get TradeStation data into Multicharts so your dev and live are the same?
Or have I missed something.


Its so easy even I did it!

https://www.multicharts.com/trading-software/index.php/TradeStation.

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
Thanked by:




Last Updated on January 11, 2022


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts