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Is there any platform that powerful and available to the general public?

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 matzero 
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Hi

I found some proprietary platform that as far as I know is not available to the general public. I have access to it only by watching video stream

Do you know any platforms that can visualize:

1. Individual orders of large players that took several levels of liquidity to fill (order no, qty, position).
2. Iceberg orders with indication if the order was filled or it stays still in book (price, filled qty, remaining qty)
3. Stop orders executed by price level

I found it incredibly useful in scalping but I don't want to relay on screen cast, I'd like to have this kind of information provided by platform installed on my computer

Check this screenshots:





Apparently it uses MBO data but the only platform that I know that can use MBO data is Bookmap and I don't like it

Any ideas?

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 mkata 
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I can tell from your second screenshot that the platform is SierraChart.

The indicators are probably custom built.

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I can tell from your second screenshot that the platform is SierraChart.

The indicators are probably custom built.

Unlikely, MBO data is not available in SierraCharts

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 matzero 
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I can tell from your second screenshot that the platform is SierraChart.

The indicators are probably custom built.

Yes I know that's based on Sierra

Those are not indicators, only visualization of real time order flow with improved transparency

I'm looking for a similar tool. Any platform really. If you are scalping this kind of information is incredibly powerful

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 matzero 
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Unlikely, MBO data is not available in SierraCharts

Yes, it's Sierra + proprietary plugin

I bet they connect directly to Rithmic API from their plugin DLL to collect this data and return to Sierra only what to show on screen

This kind of tools give prop traders real edge over people without access to this kind of visualization

The funny part is that we all have access to this data, but for some reason platforms available to retail traders are not able to show it

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Kuuluud
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It is impossible to get MBO data with Sierra Charts. Even with proprietary plugin. Sierra simply does not provide the support for MBO.

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Yes, it's Sierra + proprietary plugin

I bet they connect directly to Rithmic API from their plugin DLL to collect this data and return to Sierra only what to show on screen

This kind of tools give prop traders real edge over people without access to this kind of visualization

The funny part is that we all have access to this data, but for some reason platforms available to retail traders are not able to show it

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 matzero 
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It is impossible to get MBO data with Sierra Charts. Even with proprietary plugin. Sierra simply does not provide the support for MBO.


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Sierra plugins are plain DLL's. You can code anything you like in them, don't have to rely on data feed used by Sierra itself. I bet they connect directly to R Trader via their C++ API to collect that data. Yes it's hard. Same for synthetic iceberg order detection algorithm that you have to apply. And that's the kind of technological edge you can buy to see more than others

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Bookmap, Optimus Flow, and others who can run Rithmic data should show you MBO.

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I have seen this on Photon Trader with Windotrader plugin, but I didn't care for the in-depth book structure and didn't look into this.

I simplified my trading setups to a stupid degree and sun is shining again, plus more time for life. Of course, there are many ways to skin this animal. Just remember: every time you think you found a key, they change the locks.

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With Sierra Chart data feed Denali.
Then choose "customize Trade Dom Columns" and then from hidden columns to visible : bid number of orders and ask number of order


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It is impossible to get MBO data with Sierra Charts. Even with proprietary plugin. Sierra simply does not provide the support for MBO.


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