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https://www.quantower.com/ Has anyone tried and tested this platform yet ?
Despite being new (2018) from Ukraine, its showcasing unique features and has an ambitious roadmap. The connectivity part is especially dense and expanding and the software offers to split/dispatch the trading at several brokers already.
Also to be noted and appreciated, the development is driven by the community requests through independant paying modules, so youll purchase only whats of interest.
The support offered me several months free trial at the counterparty to test out the software and send feedback, unfortunately I have no time for the task.

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https://www.quantower.com/ Has anyone tried and tested this platform yet ?
Despite being new (2018) from Ukraine, its showcasing unique features and has an ambitious roadmap. The connectivity part is especially dense and expanding and the software offers to split/dispatch the trading at several brokers already.
Also to be noted and appreciated, the development is driven by the community requests through independant paying modules, so youll purchase only whats of interest.
The support offered me several months free trial at the counterparty to test out the software and send feedback, unfortunately I have no time for the task.

I have been in touch with these developers for quite some time.
If you need a demo, we can grant that.

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Has anyone tried and tested this platform yet ?
Despite being new (2018) from Ukraine, its showcasing unique features and has an ambitious roadmap. The connectivity part is especially dense and expanding and the software offers to split/dispatch the trading at several brokers already.
Also to be noted and appreciated, the development is driven by the community requests through independant paying modules, so youll purchase only whats of interest.
The support offered me several months free trial at the counterparty to test out the software and send feedback, unfortunately I have no time for the task.

I'm using Quantower with OANDA and Interactive brokers. It works great. As I know, soon they will add Rithmic and CQG connections... It gives access to my futures account)

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I'm using Quantower with OANDA and Interactive brokers. It works great. As I know, soon they will add Rithmic and CQG connections... It gives access to my futures account)

i am planing to buy lifetime ,do u recommend them ?

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I started a new thread then realized this was exactly similar. Gonna delete that and post here and revive this thread. Completely agree. This platform looks incredibly well done and integrates very broadly across broker and asset class. Seems like I could be a direct competitor to many of the popular platforms.

That said, it's new and so curious who is using this. Quantower is the bones of the new Optimus Flow so hopefully there will be more people that have experience using it.

Anyone with any experience or thoughts on Quantower?

Looks very well done and quite intriguing with large amount of functionality and multi-broker/asset capability but doesn't seem to have a large footprint generally in the larger trading world.

Curious if anyone has any feedback or experience with it?

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They added dxfeed data provider and it works perfectly. I waited for it a very long time) Finally good feed in Quantower platform
https://www.quantower.com/blog/dxfeed-quantower-trading-platform

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I just tried the demo of Bookmap and Quantower and realised how more advanced the Quantower is. It basically can cover almost all my needs.

For me the only a problem is the limitation to use only Interactive Brokers as a broker, since i'm trading stocks.

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I just tried the demo of Bookmap and Quantower and realised how more advanced the Quantower is. It basically can cover almost all my needs.

For me the only a problem is the limitation to use only Interactive Brokers as a broker, since i'm trading stocks.

I was considering the same 2 options a few months ago. I contacted Quantower for a demo with all features and compared that to Bookmap. I ended up getting a bookmap lifetime license.
Quantower is cool, they have a lot of features, but they're not really very polished or very flexible. Quantower tries to cover a lot of ground so that they're useful for all kinds of traders - while bookmap is specialized for order flow traders.
Quantower is improving fast, but for my needs bookmap was a better fit.

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Downloaded QT to have a look. Everything looks rather small on a laptop and the fonts don't look as sharp. Don't have this issue with other charting platforms. How are you guys resolving the visual sharpness of this? Or is everyone using quantower on 32 inch monitors?

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Downloaded QT to have a look. Everything looks rather small on a laptop and the fonts don't look as sharp. Don't have this issue with other charting platforms. How are you guys resolving the visual sharpness of this? Or is everyone using quantower on 32 inch monitors?

I have a 55" mon, so it is hard to go though it. the only way was to change windows interface scale to 100%

And, by the way, the QT support just ignored me about this (and not only) question.

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Have been using Quantower for a couple of months. Impressed with the functionality for the price. I discovered a bug last week and the guys in Ukraine spent most of the day on Friday sorting it out for me. It's a young and ambitious enterprise and the developers who are running it are talented. They are also straight and people shouldn't worry that it's Ukraine based, in my opinion. I lived and worked there several years ago and while elements of the government are so bent they couldn't lie straight in bed, the people are great.

It's a damn sight cheaper than Bookmap and offers much the same. In fact the free version is fine if you need a plug in for your Rithmic feed, for example. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Have been using Quantower for a couple of months. Impressed with the functionality for the price. I discovered a bug last week and the guys in Ukraine spent most of the day on Friday sorting it out for me. It's a young and ambitious enterprise and the developers who are running it are talented. They are also straight and people shouldn't worry that it's Ukraine based, in my opinion. I lived and worked there several years ago and while elements of the government are so bent they couldn't lie straight in bed, the people are great.
It's a damn sight cheaper than Bookmap and offers much the same. In fact the free version is fine if you need a plug in for your Rithmic feed, for example. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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I was testing the free version and was also very impressed. I intend to buy the lifetime edition and will subscribe dxfeeds future data for 19 (CME Top of Book). Its rather cheaper than barchart or Iq.
Currently im using IBs datafeed but its not tick based. Do you use Market Deph? I also have the motivewave order flow edition but cant manage its template structure. So confusing for me.
And you must subscribe to barchart or iq to get tick data.

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I was testing the free version and was also very impressed. I intend to buy the lifetime edition and will subscribe dxfeeds future data for 19 (CME Top of Book). Its rather cheaper than barchart or Iq.
Currently im using IBs datafeed but its not tick based. Do you use Market Deph? I also have the motivewave order flow edition but cant manage its template structure. So confusing for me.
And you must subscribe to barchart or iq to get tick data.

Hi. I'm not familiar with Motive Wave, although I tried the demo but couldn't get on with it. Have you tried Trading View? I couldn't do without it these days. And it's cheap. But Quantower is proving its worth for my volume and depth analysis, the detailed picture, and Trading View for the bigger picture. Also TV is cloud based so doesn't hog your resources.

I have dxFeed nasdaq Total View along with Rithmic plugged into Quantower. It's running very smoothly.

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Hi. I'm not familiar with Motive Wave, although I tried the demo but couldn't get on with it. Have you tried Trading View? I couldn't do without it these days. And it's cheap. But Quantower is proving its worth for my volume and depth analysis, the detailed picture, and Trading View for the bigger picture. Also TV is cloud based so doesn't hog your resources.

I have dxFeed nasdaq Total View along with Rithmic plugged into Quantower. It's running very smoothly.

Im also a TV subscriber but only for stocks not for future data. The reason is i cant connect TV to IB so i would have to use QT or TWS for order entry. I prefer an all in one platform. TVs charting is nice but i noticed some delays during very busy market times. Sometimes the charts couldnt load immadiately. Because of this i prefer not a web based platform. The dxfeed for stocks contains only NASDAQ data but none for NYSE and AMEX. Quotemedia offers Level 1 quotes for all three exchanges for 33 $. Maybe an alternative.
Is it possible to connect dxfeed, quotemedia and IB simultaneously?

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Im also a TV subscriber but only for stocks not for future data. The reason is i cant connect TV to IB so i would have to use QT or TWS for order entry. I prefer an all in one platform. TVs charting is nice but i noticed some delays during very busy market times. Sometimes the charts couldnt load immadiately. Because of this i prefer not a web based platform. The dxfeed for stocks contains only NASDAQ data but none for NYSE and AMEX. Quotemedia offers Level 1 quotes for all three exchanges for 33 $. Maybe an alternative.
Is it possible to connect dxfeed, quotemedia and IB simultaneously?

Yes, it is possible. You can also aggregate the data, create synthetic products etc. I agree about Trading View, but it's great for general charting.

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Wow, that looks like a Bookmap clone. I want to remind everyone that Bookmap is a site sponsor, and they've been good to our community. I also believe they should be rewarded for having the original idea to visualize data and group data in this way with a client side chart package.

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I'm trying to assemble Quantower for trading stocks using InteractiveBrokers as a broker and IQFeed as a data provider. The thing is, that if i connect only IB's market data everything works as expected, but with IQFeed I also need symbol mapping, which i tried to run automatically (without success), then I wrote a script which should help to generate proper config file, which looks right, but also does not work.

Can you please share your experience of IB usage on Quantower. Feel like I'm doing something wrong but can not get what exactly.

By the way, this script might be useful for somebody, so i made it open, see https://github.com/kvokka/quantower_mappings

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Wow, that looks like a Bookmap clone. I want to remind everyone that Bookmap is a site sponsor, and they've been good to our community. I also believe they should be rewarded for having the original idea to visualize data and group data in this way with a client side chart package.

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Well, you could say that Bookmap cloned Jigsaw depth viewer in that case, Mike. Every good idea gets copied eventually. I agree Bookmap is a good bit of kit but most traders I've spoken to think its becoming way overpriced. And Quantower offers very good value as it does much more than Bookmap.

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I'm trying to assemble Quantower for trading stocks using InteractiveBrokers as a broker and IQFeed as a data provider. The thing is, that if i connect only IB's market data everything works as expected, but with IQFeed I also need symbol mapping, which i tried to run automatically (without success), then I wrote a script which should help to generate proper config file, which looks right, but also does not work.

Can you please share your experience of IB usage on Quantower. Feel like I'm doing something wrong but can not get what exactly.

By the way, this script might be useful for somebody, so i made it open, see https://github.com/kvokka/quantower_mappings

I don't have IB connected, but may do in the future. I would suggest contacting Alex Bogdan, you can find him on skype. He's the main developer and a very helpful chap.

How do ytou find IQ Feed, fast accurate? Do you have depth?

I'll post some screen shots of dxFeed's depth/ volume when the markets open.

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I don't have IB connected, but may do in the future. I would suggest contacting Alex Bogdan, you can find him on skype. He's the main developer and a very helpful chap.

How do ytou find IQ Feed, fast accurate? Do you have depth?

I'll post some screen shots of dxFeed's depth/ volume when the markets open.

Thank you for the contact, but i found a few dozens of guys with such name in skype. Can you please share his skype login?

I'm in the process of long chat with Quantower support in telegram, and i sent a few found bugs in there, but still do not have any idea about any progress. I already asked about direct chat with developers, but idk how it'll be.

At the moment i'm very jealous to futures traders cos it looks like Quantower has a decent support of them. But with stocks (and with IB) it needs some love, cos atm it's hardly usable.


Atm because of broken symbol mapping will have to leave DOM surface & DOM with IQFeed and the charts on IB's level1 (which is laggy & slow, but for charts it's tolerable. the downside is that i'll not be able to use DOM ladder for trading)

I can not give u any comments about IQFeed yet, cos i activated it just on the weekend, but can share the screenshots here (and i feel that it'll be better than IB's L2, cos everything is better than it)

PS: dxfeed provides only NASDAQ totalview and idk about NYSE & NYSE ARCA books. With this chunks you can feel that markets contain way more aisbergs than they really do.

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Well, you could say that Bookmap cloned Jigsaw depth viewer in that case, Mike. Every good idea gets copied eventually. I agree Bookmap is a good bit of kit but most traders I've spoken to think its becoming way overpriced. And Quantower offers very good value as it does much more than Bookmap.

Perhaps Mike could clarify the intention of his original post. I am not aware of Bookmap having a valid patent on the book depth visualization concept. If they have such then I would anticipate that they would defend their intellectual property against any competitor that infringes upon the patent - seeking either damages or a licensing deal for the technology. (Such would follow the model TT used in defending the patent on the static DOM).

I would echo ZCars's sentiment - Quantower has proven to be very good value.

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Thank you for the contact, but i found a few dozens of guys with such name in skype. Can you please share his skype login?

I'm in the process of long chat with Quantower support in telegram, and i sent a few found bugs in there, but still do not have any idea about any progress. I already asked about direct chat with developers, but idk how it'll be.

At the moment i'm very jealous to futures traders cos it looks like Quantower has a decent support of them. But with stocks (and with IB) it needs some love, cos atm it's hardly usable.


Atm because of broken symbol mapping will have to leave DOM surface & DOM with IQFeed and the charts on IB's level1 (which is laggy & slow, but for charts it's tolerable. the downside is that i'll not be able to use DOM ladder for trading)

I can not give u any comments about IQFeed yet, cos i activated it just on the weekend, but can share the screenshots here (and i feel that it'll be better than IB's L2, cos everything is better than it)

PS: dxfeed provides only NASDAQ totalview and idk about NYSE & NYSE ARCA books. With this chunks you can feel that markets contain way more aisbergs than they really do.

If you're communicating via telegram, then you could ask for a skype call? Maybe better this way.

I wouldn't be too jealous of futures traders, most of them lose far too much money. The leverage is a killer.

dxFeed tell me they are going to release full US aggregated stock data for Quantower soon. But I believe this will be top of book only for now. Bookmap 'resell' their dxFeed, B2B2C, sort of thing. It's not a direct connection.

I think there are going to be bugs along the way with Quantower. When you think of the level of complexity in having all those data and broker connections simultaneously, it's innevitable. Nevertheless it's a stable platform.

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Perhaps Mike could clarify the intention of his original post. I am not aware of Bookmap having a valid patent on the book depth visualization concept. If they have such then I would anticipate that they would defend their intellectual property against any competitor that infringes upon the patent - seeking either damages or a licensing deal for the technology. (Such would follow the model TT used in defending the patent on the static DOM).

I would echo ZCars's sentiment - Quantower has proven to be very good value.

It's huge business, isn't it. Pandering to the retail crowd, selling that elusive edge. But healthy economies are based on fair competition, and not protectionism. Too many platfrom sellers out there squeeze the most they can from the retail fraternity. I've tried them all on my 'journey', and finding one that offers basic functionality, with multiple brokerage connections that do not cost me a monthly subscription, a great choice of connections and additional analysis packages if I need them. That doesn't hog my pc resources...well all for a few dollars a month. A fair price for the small guy.

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Just an observation from a distance. I don't use either and haven't, but they looked like one copied the other.

Not implying wrongdoing.

Educate me please, is Quantower for backtesting or for real time charting?

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Just an observation from a distance. I don't use either and haven't, but they looked like one copied the other.

Not implying wrongdoing.

Educate me please, is Quantower for backtesting or for real time charting?

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Indeed it does:

https://quantower.com.br/blog/quantower-algo-extension-api-documentation-and-strategy-runner-panel

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If you're communicating via telegram, then you could ask for a skype call? Maybe better this way.

I wouldn't be too jealous of futures traders, most of them lose far too much money. The leverage is a killer.

dxFeed tell me they are going to release full US aggregated stock data for Quantower soon. But I believe this will be top of book only for now. Bookmap 'resell' their dxFeed, B2B2C, sort of thing. It's not a direct connection.

I think there are going to be bugs along the way with Quantower. When you think of the level of complexity in having all those data and broker connections simultaneously, it's innevitable. Nevertheless it's a stable platform.

I'll not able to share the pics with IQFeed with u today - it's a bank holiday in the US, so the stock exchanges are closed, but i remember about it and will do it tomorrow.

Also, in the protection of bookmap can say that id does not looks like they passing through their infrastructure the market data, so it is just a forwarding. The same thing with Quantower.

The much more important concern is luck of the ability to select ECN, so you will miss ECN rebates and will be locked to SMART routing (and only default SMART, cos there are a dozen of them). It's not a huge deal if u trade expensive stocks or low volume, otherwise it might seriously affect your PnL

Quantower is not ideal and have a plenty amount of bugs. But the most part of them are minor and it should be easy to fix.

I already established direct contact with dev team (which include Alex but not limited to), so hope that the things will go faster. From my end i'm willing to help with polishing IB connection, cos actually this is the most promising thing on the market atm.

And by the way, they have the best market surface (even better than bookmap, which is limited to only this feature), so at least i will use this feature from them. But i hope to transition to them completely after a few fixes.

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I don't have IB connected, but may do in the future. I would suggest contacting Alex Bogdan, you can find him on skype. He's the main developer and a very helpful chap.

How do ytou find IQ Feed, fast accurate? Do you have depth?

I'll post some screen shots of dxFeed's depth/ volume when the markets open.

@ZCars. Would like to know if you find market depth usefull for trading. Do you need depth for imprint charts?
How did you pay for your lifetime edition? QT offers not common payment options, only "wayforpay" what i dont know.
I asked for a wire transfer but didnt get QTs account informations yet.

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I'll not able to share the pics with IQFeed with u today - it's a bank holiday in the US, so the stock exchanges are closed, but i remember about it and will do it tomorrow.
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I m wondering that there are ticket issues using iqs datafeed. Could you be more spercific?

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I m wondering that there are ticket issues using iqs datafeed. Could you be more spercific?

It's not about IQfeed, it's more about symbol mapping between IB and something else. If u are using IB for market data provider then you will not face it.
Anyway, for me it's the case and i got in touch with the support, so hope this will be fixed soon

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@ZCars. Would like to know if you find market depth usefull for trading. Do you need depth for imprint charts?
How did you pay for your lifetime edition? QT offers not common payment options, only "wayforpay" what i dont know.
I asked for a wire transfer but didnt get QTs account informations yet.

I personally like to see as much of the market as possible. Resting liquidity is relevant to price as it often attracts price to it. The interesting part is what happens at those levels. For example, big figure levels, particularly in stocks, often have large resting volume, but it's not always genuine and is pulled as the price nears it. If it is genuine then it can act as a support or resistance. And if absorbed quickly, price often continues past it. In futures, it's more of a game for market makers and their algos, and price has far more latitude. Market makers can only add liquidity but this can move price, so they are in control as long as it's a technical market. Did you trade during the pandemic crash? Well, I remember getting filled 200 ticks away from the advertised best price as I stupidly put in a market order. The MMs had simply left the building. They only transact when in their interests. How many on the index futures, maybe six big players?

Imprint charts? Do you mean numbers bars, the display of volume delta etc at each price level within the bar? If so, then you don't need depth, as you are not viewing resting orders, just transacted volume.

I use Transferwise for my banking. A good app for international, multi currency transactions.

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DOM surface

A while back I was trying to decide between quantower & bookmap - sth that annoyed me with quantower was that the DOM Surface wasn't updating in regular intervals I'm not sure if that was due to a bug or the data provider. Have you noticed anything like that?

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A while back I was trying to decide between quantower & bookmap - sth that annoyed me with quantower was that the DOM Surface wasn't updating in regular intervals I'm not sure if that was due to a bug or the data provider. Have you noticed anything like that?

It's running without problems with Rithmic R Trader plug in. The test is fast moving markets and with NQ it appears to be recording all transactions.

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It's running without problems with Rithmic R Trader plug in. The test is fast moving markets and with NQ it appears to be recording all transactions.

Good to know, thanks!
Do you know if it's possible to make it combine (aggregate) order book liquidity levels when zooming out in the heatmap?
For example when you're zoomed in you can see every single resting limit order (eg 100 orders at 2700, 400 at 2700.25), but when zooming out you see 500 total orders at ~2700.

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Good to know, thanks!
Do you know if it's possible to make it combine (aggregate) order book liquidity levels when zooming out in the heatmap?
For example when you're zoomed in you can see every single resting limit order (eg 100 orders at 2700, 400 at 2700.25), but when zooming out you see 500 total orders at ~2700.


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If you mean all cumulative orders, yes.

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I made a few screenshots with IQFeed today (which has only TotalView NASDAQ subscription), but it looks almost empty.
Still idk if it is because of IQFeed, or because of the real market situation, cos the comparison with DAS Trader market data show very similar picture. There is no any comparison with the picture on the futures which i see here from @ZCars.

Idk, maybe i'm looking for something which just does not exist. The next stop will be to start eSignal (cos i see it as a ethalon level2 data) and forward market data to TWS and consume market data from there in Quantower. In theory it should just work, but idk if it worth it.


You can find a couple of screenshots of IQFeed level2 below. This pictures does not feel full.




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