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TradeStation or NinjaTrader?

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 mrphr 
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be advised the Windows security update, that broke TS 9.1, forced everyone to 9.5, and so far...it's been horrible in terms of performance...enough that after 10 years I'm looking to switch to NinjaTrader....assuming the Windows update didn't impact it similarly....

The issue with TS 9.1 already have been solved by TS and also Windows updates itself. I am running TS 9.1 and Windows 10 and I did not even downloaded the TS update.

Are you going to switch from TradeStation to NinjaTrader? Do not think NT is going to be a headache free solution, so good luck.

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Due to an unfortunate dropped laptop, and the Meltdown & Specter chip vulnerabilities (that lead to the windows patch's) I have recently gone from running 9.1 on W7 to 9.5 on W10. Given everything I had heard about 9.5 this was a move I was dreading, but I have been pleasantly surprised. Seems faster and sharper but obviously cant tell how much is 9.5 vs 9.1, W10 vs W7, and new chip vs 3 year old chip! I'm not a power user my any means but I haven't had a single crash in the month I've been on the new setup.


@kevinkdog said: ..."I still do not trust 9.5 with real money".



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 cleon 
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The issue with TS 9.1 already have been solved by TS and also Windows updates itself. I am running TS 9.1 and Windows 10 and I did not even downloaded the TS update.

Are you going to switch from TradeStation to NinjaTrader? Do not think NT is going to be a headache free solution, so good luck.

Did they put out a hotfix for 9.1? When I asked earlier they said they were not planning on fixing 9.1, and that I had to move to 9.5 to get around the Windows issue. If 9.1 is working, I'd be happy to rollback TS! I have no interest in spending time learning another platform.

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Did they put out a hotfix for 9.1? When I asked earlier they said they were not planning on fixing 9.1, and that I had to move to 9.5 to get around the Windows issue. If 9.1 is working, I'd be happy to rollback TS! I have no interest in spending time learning another platform.

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 cleon 
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OK..so I still have TS 9.1 installed. Made sure to load the most recent updates, and fully updated on Windows 10.

Same error as when the problem first started back in November, https://cal_trader.tinytake.com:443/sf/MjMxOTE5OF83MTAyNjY2

I've sent TS a message directly asking if 9.1 will work with Windows 10 and will post their response when I receive it. Last month the answer was simply, 'no'.

9.5 does load with Windows 10..which is what I am using now, but the performance is terrible relative to 9.1 on pre-updated Windows 10.

My laptop with Windows 7 and 9.1 works flawlessly.

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OK..so I still have TS 9.1 installed. Made sure to load the most recent updates, and fully updated on Windows 10.

Same error as when the problem first started back in November, https://cal_trader.tinytake.com:443/sf/MjMxOTE5OF83MTAyNjY2

I've sent TS a message directly asking if 9.1 will work with Windows 10 and will post their response when I receive it. Last month the answer was simply, 'no'.

9.5 does load with Windows 10..which is what I am using now, but the performance is terrible relative to 9.1 on pre-updated Windows 10.

My laptop with Windows 7 and 9.1 works flawlessly.

Well that was the best I can do for you, if does not work then phone the TS support. [better than email IMO]
But I am running TS 9.1 and Windows 10 as of today...

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OK..so I still have TS 9.1 installed. Made sure to load the most recent updates, and fully updated on Windows 10.

Same error as when the problem first started back in November, https://cal_trader.tinytake.com:443/sf/MjMxOTE5OF83MTAyNjY2

I've sent TS a message directly asking if 9.1 will work with Windows 10 and will post their response when I receive it. Last month the answer was simply, 'no'.

9.5 does load with Windows 10..which is what I am using now, but the performance is terrible relative to 9.1 on pre-updated Windows 10.

My laptop with Windows 7 and 9.1 works flawlessly.

They have told me that they do expect to fix 9.1 / win 10 issue. The fix has turned out to be more complicated than expected.

I'm running Win 7, too.

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 cleon 
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Well...just to avoid this horrible DOM lag, for now I've just rolled back the Windows update and went back to 9.1. Was on hold for 45min on TS support and gave up. I'll wait to see if they answer the 9.1 hotfix question via email and post the reply w/e it arrives.

Also reduced most of the Windows visual enhancement optional features Solidus recommended in another post.

Side tip...turn off anything doing 'intrabar updates that you don't need real-time. Makes a big difference on the EL utilization monitor although really a separate thing...

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 cleon 
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Yikes!...noticed this while switching back and forth... EXACT same layout/workspaces/desktops...

https://cal_trader.tinytake.com:443/sf/MjMxOTc1M183MTAzNjk3

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Was on hold for 45min on TS support and gave up.

Yeah, it is ridiculous...

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