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A new (open source?) trading platform

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There are opportunities, but obviously not for everyone ...

I have no experience with this platform, but it has been around for awhile and I think it already has been rebranded for some brokerage .. perhaps this is a consideration == start && ('fix' what you dont like) since the source is included along with support .. ??!! C#, C++, VB.net, NN, dataserver, multicore support " All CPU intensive processes in M4 are asynchronous, taking full advantage of the latest in multiple core processors. Data loading, neural network training, expert advisor processing and other features make full use of asynchronous programming throughout M4. We also make it easy for you to add your own asynchronous features by reusing our AsyncProcess template class." and it is skinnable

Not a rant, or recommendation.. just an alternative .. and I am not a programmer so .. 2 CDN pennies worth .. there is a delete key .. but I am interested enough to contribute$ toward a co-operative purchase of this or something better to brand it with futures.io (formerly BMT) or some such ...
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Not a rant, or recommendation.. just an alternative .. and I am not a programmer so .. 2 CDN pennies worth .. there is a delete key .. but I am interested enough to contribute$ toward a co-operative purchase of this or something better to brand it with futures.io (formerly BMT) or some such ...
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Yeah right Jon,

From opensource development free talk to get it now for only US $8,500 is a little bit off the Richter Scale, don't ya think?

Not really sure what you mean when you say "interested enough to contribute$ toward a co-operative purchase" so can you explain what you mean by this, what does a co-operative purchase do or how does it work exactly?

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Yeah right Jon,

From opensource development free talk to get it now for only US $8,500 is a little bit off the Richter Scale, don't ya think?

Not really sure what you mean when you say "interested enough to contribute$ toward a co-operative purchase" so can you explain what you mean by this, what does a co-operative purchase do or how does it work exactly?

Back in the 'good old days' when I was fortunate enough to be able to farm for a living, often groups of farmers would form a co-operative to buy expensive items such as combines (a family group / farmers in same township, that sort of thing,) or other rarely used (and definitely beyond the scope of one farmer to purchase with the idea that it would pay for itself over time), in one way or another. In the context here, co-op would have to be a limited buyin of equal shares, likely about 50 or so, where the cost would be shared and then, as licenses, the co-op 'legal entity' would distribute compiled versions of the software, and then members would contribute testing, suggestions, write code, etc, much like what is done here at futures.io (formerly BMT). Due to the need for a 'legal entity' they would have to be legal officers elected by the members and likely best situated in country/state of origin for the software purchase.

Herein is suggestion that there are different ways of doing things to get to the same place, with both negative and positive aspects and potentials. Nothing is perfect, and writing your own trading platform/adding on to open source code, is time consuming and sometimes wasteful task. Buying code does have its drawbacks of going down a road already started.

Just opened a door out of a box: maybe it will slam shut with me still in it, maybe not

Hope that answers the question,
Jon

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The problem with this is that the 8500 license would not allow sharing

That said, I will start publishing the first Tradex code parts slowly next week under Tradex This includes MOSTLY source code... so.... )

Just fixing up some stuff in the core (Tradex.dll). It will be a long way. I twill also include the connector framework (including connectors when allowed to) as well as UI elements.

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The problem with this is that the 8500 license would not allow sharing .

My confusion I guess .. This is what I read on the link:
This is a non-exclusive, royalty free enterprise license. You may compile the application and distribute it to any number of end users without paying royalties!"
I built the co-op idea on that ionformation. As said, no worries, I returned it to my ideas box and close the lid.


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That said, I will start publishing the first Tradex code parts slowly next week under Tradex This includes MOSTLY source code... so.... )

Just fixing up some stuff in the core (Tradex.dll). It will be a long way. I twill also include the connector framework (including connectors when allowed to) as well as UI elements.

Congrats on moving forward and seeing the results soon.
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My confusion I guess .. This is what I read on the link:
This is a non-exclusive, royalty free enterprise license. You may compile the application and distribute it to any number of end users without paying royalties!"
I built the co-op idea on that ionformation. As said, no worries, I returned it to my ideas box and close the lid.



Congrats on moving forward and seeing the results soon.
Jon

Hi Jon,

Ahh, so thats what you mean. Yes I feel that would be a great idea, and one that would obviously make it cost effective if it could be implemented to across a broad range of users, but its seems a little grey the area as NetTecture has pointed out.

I hope my previous post never came a across as harsh in anyway as for a moment I thought you had referred to to the what the link had said being on special for 8.5K (I thought per head).

And yes NetTecture, good stuff there mate, hope to see further developments there.

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Hi Jon,

Ahh, so thats what you mean. Yes I feel that would be a great idea, and one that would obviously make it cost effective if it could be implemented to across a broad range of users, but its seems a little grey the area as NetTecture has pointed out.

I hope my previous post never came a across as harsh in anyway as for a moment I thought you had referred to to the what the link had said being on special for 8.5K (I thought per head).

And yes NetTecture, good stuff there mate, hope to see further developments there.

No problem whatsoever ... I was just trying to contribute ideas and possibilities: others might have seen it (the idea of the co-op as not possible) the same way so I am glad we got it sorted out. I dont the see the idea of the co-op as being much different as peeps contributing on futures.io (formerly BMT): we all bring something a little different to the table. My anticipation is that those developers are bringing out a much newer version of the software so they are getting cash in by lowering the price point temporarily.

Looking forward to assist in test of anything that gets produced by futures.io (formerly BMT) members, that is a given.

Jon

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Hey guys.

Over the past year a good half dozen or more of you have told me that you are writing your own trading platform. Each of you have your own reasons for writing your own platform, but I think the one thing in common with all of you is that you were unhappy with the platforms that already exist in the market.

A lot of you guys are really brilliant programmers, and excellent traders to boot. I've often wanted to try to find a way to get you together to work on a new trading platform in a joint manner. It seems like a lot of wasted resources to do it independently.

So, I finally just decided to start this thread. I am unsure what kind of traction to expect. Obviously, there are a lot of things to consider when developing a new platform. Everything from the language and architecture, to licensing and pricing, to features and support.

I would just like to say that I will offer up any resources I can to try to bring you guys together to create a joint team.

I think to get us started it might be beneficial for those of you have already started writing your own platform to step up and reply with at least the core fundamentals (language, vision, license) of your new platform, then we can step back and take an inventory and see where we stand.

Mike

Hi Mike,

I registered 5 minutes ago to ask this exact question, well, sort of, and here I find it is asked by yourself.

I'd be keen to write a custom strategy development platform, less of a focus on execution or plumbing into brokers. Certainly have some ideas on how best to organise this sort of thing.

Have you had many follow-ups on this? Given you started the thread, I guess you have some thoughts also?

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i would like to help is setting something up as well - not technically inclined but am pro active in automated trading - would look to have the ability to design and execute price patterns and bar pattern setups -

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Not sure this is the best place to post this but here you go:

Has anyone looked at StreamInsight, Microsoft's shot at the CEP space? Is anyone aware of it being used in trading apps?

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