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Hi guys,

It is my pleasure to welcome back Patrick Rooney of Trading Technologies for a webinar on Tuesday, December 13th @ 4:30PM Eastern US.

The topic for this webinar is "ADL: Hands-on", and bullet points include:

- What is it: why it was created and the evolution of drag-n-drop algo development
- What can it do: practical applications, order type development, round robin algo functionality, quick design, test, deploy, proof of concept, pre-API dev work
- Getting Started with ADL
- Available support options
- Live demonstration of Building, testing, and deploying an algo
- Q&A

You can find out more about TT's ADL here:
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What did everyone think of the webinar?

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What did everyone think of the webinar?

I think Pat uses way to many jump blocks in his algos!

More seriously, I'm a very very long time user of ADL, not only going back to it's original Beta, but also back to when it was Tickit before it was acquired by TT (the product that Rick Lane, current TT CEO was a founder of, as mentioned in the webinar). In that time I have used the product to literally execute thousands of orders. While I use the XTrader version (rather than the new version) I can not say enough about how great this product is, and at least for me, how life changing it was. As I type I have 46 different ADL Algo instances running, and at busy times regularly well over a 100. What Pat illustrated here is just the top of the iceberg. You can make an ADL Algo as complicated and sophisticated as you want. It actually gets quite addictive. As Pat says, it's even quite fun just to play with.

With regards to the webinar specifically, Pat could have made that first Algo even faster than he did. If he had created all the sell side logic first, he could have then just copy and pasted the dozen or so sell side blocks all in one go, and just changed the one or two that needed changing, to make them buy size. There's also something called "Flip Side" or something similar, that allows you to use the same Algo's for both buy side and sell side of the market, without having to create duplicate algo's, as it lets you decide which logic is reversed and which isn't.

Question for Pat, @TradingTech,
  • I didn't see the Algo Dashboard. Is that still in the new version, or at least replaced with something similar?
  • Any advancement on the concept of a Global Variable, which when changed effects every Algo with that variable?

Thanks Pat, and Thanks Mike/Terry for arranging this.

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More seriously, I'm a very very long time user of ADL

@SMCJB,

I am formally asking you to do a webinar presentation for FIO that covers a more advanced ADL concept. Will you agree? We are currently booking March dates, giving you time to prepare

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@SMCJB,

I am formally asking you to do a webinar presentation for FIO that covers a more advanced ADL concept. Will you agree? We are currently booking March dates, giving you time to prepare

Mike

I can get behind that.

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I think Pat uses way to many jump blocks in his algos!

More seriously, I'm a very very long time user of ADL, not only going back to it's original Beta, but also back to when it was Tickit before it was acquired by TT (the product that Rick Lane, current TT CEO was a founder of, as mentioned in the webinar). In that time I have used the product to literally execute thousands of orders. While I use the XTrader version (rather than the new version) I can not say enough about how great this product is, and at least for me, how life changing it was. As I type I have 46 different ADL Algo instances running, and at busy times regularly well over a 100. What Pat illustrated here is just the top of the iceberg. You can make an ADL Algo as complicated and sophisticated as you want. It actually gets quite addictive. As Pat says, it's even quite fun just to play with.

With regards to the webinar specifically, Pat could have made that first Algo even faster than he did. If he had created all the sell side logic first, he could have then just copy and pasted the dozen or so sell side blocks all in one go, and just changed the one or two that needed changing, to make them buy size. There's also something called "Flip Side" or something similar, that allows you to use the same Algo's for both buy side and sell side of the market, without having to create duplicate algo's, as it lets you decide which logic is reversed and which isn't.

Question for Pat, @TradingTech,
  • I didn't see the Algo Dashboard. Is that still in the new version, or at least replaced with something similar?
  • Any advancement on the concept of a Global Variable, which when changed effects every Algo with that variable?

Thanks Pat, and Thanks Mike/Terry for arranging this.

Thank you for the kind words. Yes, one of the wonderful things about ADL is there are many ways to do the same thing. During the demo, Andrew Renalds, who owns ADL for TT, was in the room with me and made a few audible "hmms". We all find our own path I suppose.

Regarding your questions:
1. Yes, algo dashboard is alive and well. https://library.tradingtechnologies.com/trade/alg-algo-dashboard-overview.html


2. Yes, we're tinkering with a global variable concept. I do not have a timeline for delivery of that.

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@SMCJB,

I am formally asking you to do a webinar presentation for FIO that covers a more advanced ADL concept. Will you agree? We are currently booking March dates, giving you time to prepare

Mike

I guess I could.

Obvious issues that I see include
  • I use the older XTrader ADL and not the new TT ADL. While the concept is the same, and the blocks very similar, there are some differences, which could be confusing to users.
  • Pat/TT might not want a non-employee demo-ing their product. If I mess up it could potentially make them look bad.
  • I'm really not sure how interested other people would be in many of the algo's I use. For example I have a best execution algo that looks at several products with similar risk types (specifically CME - NG, HH & NN and ICE - Henry Hub) and then executes the best value, which unless your trading all those products, would be pretty useless.

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I guess I could.

Obvious issues that I see include
  • I use the older XTrader ADL and not the new TT ADL. While the concept is the same, and the blocks very similar, there are some differences, which could be confusing to users.
  • Pat/TT might not want a non-employee demo-ing their product. If I mess up it could potentially make them look bad.
  • I'm really not sure how interested other people would be in many of the algo's I use. For example I have a best execution algo that looks at several products with similar risk types (specifically CME - NG, HH & NN and ICE - Henry Hub) and then executes the best value, which unless your trading all those products, would be pretty useless.

I say why not see what happens? An hour of so of inspiration can spur off a lot of ideas about what anyone can do in the newer platform, with older platform, or to come around to do a decent webinar about the newer platform to pick up where you left off.

I think the TT is that kind of "own phenomenon" where any kind of experienced users are going to stir up a lot of brainstorming that leads to more and more future discussion over the year. Rack 'em, and break. We'll play it out.

By this time next year there's no telling what users and tech team are thinking of, and 5 years ahead there'll be exponentially more than that after feeding off of each other's "thinking/using/constructing/rethinking" synergies.

That's 5 years ahead rather than 5 years behind where we left off here this year.

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