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Trading platform trends over time

Courtesy Google, where popularity is gauged by search frequency

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#cmpt=q&q=ninjatrader,+tradestation,+sierra+chart,+thinkorswim,+metatrader&cat=0-7

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@NinjaTrader is overtaking TradeStation in popularity. TradeStation has been in rapid decline for over 10 years, and shows no sign of that stopping.

ThinkOrSwim is in a range for the last 5 years.

MetaTrader (forex) has declined in recent years, but just recently is gaining some ground again.

@SierraChart isn't even on the radar.

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Futures has been losing ground for a decade, but has seen a recent swing up (this year).

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Very interesting, that could mean Ninja has plenty of room to growth.

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The Monex Group from Japan has acquired TradeStation in April of 2011.
Prior to that, Monex has been in state of decline, even prior to 2008 meltdown.
Since the purchase of TS, their stock doubled and shows no sign of stoping.

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The Monex Group from Japan has acquired TradeStation in April of 2011.
Prior to that, Monex has been in state of decline, even prior to 2008 meltdown.
Since the purchase of TS, their stock doubled and shows no sign of stoping.

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I'm not saying TradeStation isn't profitable, but their popularity seems to be in decline.

Do they release figures regarding their install base?

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I'm not saying TradeStation isn't profitable, but their popularity seems to be in decline.

Do they release figures regarding their install base?

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You are using a search term to gauge "popularity", which is misleading as far as quality of the actual end user and growth. In my opinion, profitability shows that people actually trade, and therefore there is a flow of users who are consistently trade.

The "install base" is also misleading. TradeStation does not allow install unless you a customer.
Counting installs (which includes demos) as a metric will include those who financially not suitable to trade futures, fascinated with trading and perpetual paper traders. These are not traders, yet large enough of a group to affect the entire sample group.

I am an industry guy, not a spectator from the outside, and the user base of TS is a more sophisticated base because I come across them. This is not only amongst retail, but CTAs, hedge funds and family offices that use the TradeStation Prime Brokerage that is offered.

Let me give you another example: I took 2 terms, CQG and Trading Technologies on the same tool you used.
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=trading%20technologies%2C%20CQG&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4

They both show that they are in a state of decline. Now, walk into any capitalized FCM in Chicago and I mean the big boys. The only two names you will hear is TT and CQG. They rule Chicago when it comes to their data feeds and platforms. They are not anywhere as far as what these graphs from Google represent.

As a side note, now that I am an IIB, I have a better feel as to what user is attracted to what platform and where people actually trade.

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You are using a search term to gauge "popularity", which is misleading as far as quality of the actual end user and growth. In my opinion, profitability shows that people actually trade, and therefore there is a flow of users who are consistently trade.

The "install base" is also misleading. TradeStation does not allow install unless you a customer.
Counting installs (which includes demos) as a metric will include those who financially not suitable to trade futures, fascinated with trading and perpetual paper traders. These are not traders, yet large enough of a group to affect the entire sample group.

I am an industry guy, not a spectator from the outside, and the user base of TS is a more sophisticated base because I come across them. This is not only amongst retail, but CTAs, hedge funds and family offices that use the TradeStation Prime Brokerage that is offered.

Let me give you another example: I took 2 terms, CQG and Trading Technologies on the same tool you used.
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=trading%20technologies%2C%20CQG&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4

They both show that they are in a state of decline. Now, walk into any capitalized FCM in Chicago and I mean the big boys. The only two names you will hear is TT and CQG. They rule Chicago when it comes to their data feeds and platforms. They are not anywhere as far as what these graphs from Google represent.

As a side note, now that I am an IIB, I have a better feel as to what user is attracted to what platform and where people actually trade.

Thanks,
Matt
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There is a risk of loss in futures trading. Past performance is not indicative of future results.

It's just a gauge of how often people are searching for the term. Nothing more. In the case of TradeStation, people aren't searching for it as much. Same for TT and CQG. In the case of NinjaTrader, people are searching for it more.

I'm not implying correlation elsewhere, just looking at search popularity. I think search term popularity should give some insight into business opportunity.

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Courtesy Google, where popularity is gauged by search frequency

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#cmpt=q&q=ninjatrader,+tradestation,+sierra+chart,+thinkorswim,+metatrader&cat=0-7

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@NinjaTrader is overtaking TradeStation in popularity. TradeStation has been in rapid decline for over 10 years, and shows no sign of that stopping.

ThinkOrSwim is in a range for the last 5 years.

MetaTrader (forex) has declined in recent years, but just recently is gaining some ground again.

@SierraChart isn't even on the radar.

Mike

I remember back when I first started trading Esignal/ TS were all the hype, while NT was in the 2nds pile.

TS must of been one of first retail platforms to offer easy language and automated trading, these days it's almost a standard feature.

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I remember back when I first started trading Esignal/ TS were all the hype, while NT was in the 2nds pile.

TS must of been one of first retail platforms to offer easy language and automated trading, these days it's almost a standard feature.

Maybe @kevinkdog could comment on the accuracy of TS backtesting capabilities versus others.

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